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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2024, 10:56:51 AM »
Its a personal opinion of what is annoying, and I accept  some may  be more sensitive to certain tones etc. But  I find it discreate, and no problem at all.    So does Mrs LV , who can hear a fridge being opened or a sneaky sweet  being unwrapped from anywhere in the house  :-[ ;D    No reason IMO to put off updating your car, or stopping driving. 

I have found it particularly  helpful with the increasingly common  20 mph limits. On roads that really dont justify  a 20 mph limit I find I naturally drive at 23 mph unless reminded.   :-[   On roads that really need the 20 mph limit I often drive slower than that anyway . If I chose to  occasionally exceed the limit( by a couple of mph  ;)  its no big deal with the car
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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2024, 09:43:34 PM »
In our other car, a 2024 Aygo X, we have this problem.  Not on the Crosstar as it is 2021 car. 

The Toyota speed bongs were driving me mad, found it way too distracting.  And I stick to speed limits. 

But in situation where you start to speed up just before the end of the 30 zone (say) the bloody bongs would start!  I had to totally clear the 30 zone before speeding up to stop the bongs happening.  As I was taught to speed up into a higher speed zone slightly before the new speed limit sign by my driving instructor years ago, that's what ive always done, without taking the piss.  The rest of the time, I am absolutely within the speed limits.  Also too, had the other issue mentioned when I set my cruise control to 31 to take account of the speedo underread, and the bongs would go off.  Easily remedied.

However I now go the route of turning off the Road Sign Speed Recognition system on every drive, which take me seconds, and stops the bonging.

I really hope this issue doesn't get worse with increasing legislation.  Although I am totally in favour of measures to warn speeding drivers generally.


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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2024, 08:54:41 AM »
Dukes of Hazzard horns (30 quid on amazon) can just fit into a Jazz near the window washer reservoir, they will silence the bongs and pretty much every other noise known to man apart from a Saturn Five rocket and they don't make them rockets anymore.

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2024, 09:09:09 AM »
In our other car, a 2024 Aygo X, we have this problem.  Not on the Crosstar as it is 2021 car. 

The Toyota speed bongs were driving me mad, found it way too distracting.  And I stick to speed limits. 

But in situation where you start to speed up just before the end of the 30 zone (say) the bloody bongs would start!  I had to totally clear the 30 zone before speeding up to stop the bongs happening.  As I was taught to speed up into a higher speed zone slightly before the new speed limit sign by my driving instructor years ago, that's what ive always done, without taking the piss.  The rest of the time, I am absolutely within the speed limits.  Also too, had the other issue mentioned when I set my cruise control to 31 to take account of the speedo underread, and the bongs would go off.  Easily remedied.

However I now go the route of turning off the Road Sign Speed Recognition system on every drive, which take me seconds, and stops the bonging.

I really hope this issue doesn't get worse with increasing legislation.  Although I am totally in favour of measures to warn speeding drivers generally.

Loving the way you say you drive to speed limits, but then say you exceed the speed limit before the higher sign applies!  Do that on an IAM or RoSPA ADA test and you'll quickly discover that your driving instructor was wrong.  :)

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2024, 10:02:55 AM »

But in situation where you start to speed up just before the end of the 30 zone (say) the bloody bongs would start!  I had to totally clear the 30 zone before speeding up to stop the bongs happening.  As I was taught to speed up into a higher speed zone slightly before the new speed limit sign by my driving instructor years ago, that's what ive always done, without taking the piss. 
I was taught to start slowing down when approaching a lower limit and take pride in matching the limit just as I pass the sign.  But not to speed up as soon as a higher  limit is in sight (although I sometimes do  :-[ )   I tend to avoid it on the continent where its a favourite place for  police speed traps  :(  .
I havnt yet used the system enough to be sure  but I dont recall the bongs going off when I started to exceed  30 mph when a 40 mph sign was in sight ahead.   Its quite accurate in changing the displayed speed as you draw level with the sign , but maybe it can read the roundel  sooner than this  and defers bonging.

Yesterday I went to our household waste site on an industrial estate.   Speed limit in the waste facility   is 10 mph with roundel signs.  When I left the facility  and drove on 'normal' roads with a 30 mph limit the car continued to display a 10 mph roundel  and bonged when I exceeded this  . After about 500 metres the display changed to the applicable 30 mph.   Soon after that the limit changed to 40 mph (visible signs) and because the road was rural I increased speed a bit prematurely.  No bongs. 
  Interesting thing (for me)  is I had not passed any  30 mph signs on leaving the site  (I have double checked by using google street view) Yet  somehow the car  roundel display  eventually changed from 10 mph to 30mph ..Was this because it hadnt detected a 10 mph sign for some time?Did it change to 30 mph by default, or because that was the previously  detected speed  , or did it know the speed limit was 30 mph using mapping and GPS data rather than sign recognition?    ::)
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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2024, 10:22:01 AM »
After 1200 miles in a new advance the bleeps haven't bothered me at all. Not very loud, and not that often  ;)
Easy enough to ignore if ,having been reminded to check ,I decide human knows better .   :P  (such as if it reads the  lower speed limit sign  from a side road  )

Yes, I think it should also be said, to members unfamiliar with the Mk4, that the 'beep' volume can be adjusted in Settings, down to level which to me is acceptable and of course the system will only give 3 short 'beeps', as you exceed the speed limit.
It does NOT beep continuously, whilst travelling over the limit. ;D

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2024, 11:19:39 AM »
After 1200 miles in a new advance the bleeps haven't bothered me at all. Not very loud, and not that often  ;)
Easy enough to ignore if ,having been reminded to check ,I decide human knows better .   :P  (such as if it reads the  lower speed limit sign  from a side road  )

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It does NOT beep continuously, whilst travelling over the limit. ;D

so why all the fuss?

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2024, 11:42:12 AM »
Because there are people who enjoy causing a fuss?  :P
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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2024, 11:57:54 AM »
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Yesterday I went to our household waste site on an industrial estate.   Speed limit in the waste facility   is 10 mph with roundel signs.  When I left the facility  and drove on 'normal' roads with a 30 mph limit the car continued to display a 10 mph roundel  and bonged when I exceeded this  . After about 500 metres the display changed to the applicable 30 mph.   Soon after that the limit changed to 40 mph (visible signs) and because the road was rural I increased speed a bit prematurely.  No bongs. 
  Interesting thing (for me)  is I had not passed any  30 mph signs on leaving the site  (I have double checked by using google street view) Yet  somehow the car  roundel display  eventually changed from 10 mph to 30mph ..Was this because it hadnt detected a 10 mph sign for some time?Did it change to 30 mph by default, or because that was the previously  detected speed  , or did it know the speed limit was 30 mph using mapping and GPS data rather than sign recognition?    ::)

That’s piqued my interest. How does the system know what the speed limit is if there are no signs? We all know that if there are street lights but no signs, the limit is 30 (unless you’re in Wales). Likewise motorways don’t have NSL signs after you’ve joined. So how does the car know?

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2024, 02:07:18 PM »

That’s piqued my interest. How does the system know what the speed limit is if there are no signs? We all know that if there are street lights but no signs, the limit is 30 (unless you’re in Wales). Likewise motorways don’t have NSL signs after you’ve joined. So how does the car know?
Me too.
 With the car on my driveway,and only 10 metres from the road , the "HERE" navigation shows it  as off road, with a little  blue  breadcrumbs trail leading to the road . The  dashboard display has no speed limit shown, just 3 dots in a  circle.  So out of interest I took the car for a short drive on the road, which is 30 mph limit.  The 3 dots changed to 30mph   after driving about 50 metres. It definitely couldnt have recognised a speed sign, there are none.     Fairly conclusive that  in areas where no signs are displayed it uses GPS data .It may overide this if a different speed sign is recognised.   With hindsight I think that when I left the tip the speed display changed from 10 mph  to 30 sooner than I realised.   

As an added intrigue , when I started the car  the satnav took a  few seconds longer than normal to start up and displayed on the screen "Location and Vehicle sharing data".   I'd never noticed that  before.  Its probably computer speak for "where the heck are we?".   
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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2024, 08:40:32 PM »


Loving the way you say you drive to speed limits, but then say you exceed the speed limit before the higher sign applies!  Do that on an IAM or RoSPA ADA test and you'll quickly discover that your driving instructor was wrong.  :)
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Well, I can tell you in 1979 in UK, it was perfectly normal, I did as I'd been instructed on my driving test and passed first time!  I don't doubt things are different now.    ;D

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Re: Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2024, 08:56:43 AM »
Well, I can tell you in 1979 in UK, it was perfectly normal, I did as I'd been instructed on my driving test and passed first time!  I don't doubt things are different now.    ;D

Things aren't different now, the law is (and always has been) that the posted speed limit applies up to the sign.

I was told that when I learnt in the early 80s, and it was reinforced by my IAM Observer many years later. Anticipating an approaching increase in the speed limit was frowned upon, and it was also required to be down to the right speed before passing a sign reducing the limit. Funny how many people who think it's OK to increase speed as soon as the NSL sign can be seen ahead don't also feel the need to reduce speed when they can see the 30 sign ahead.

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