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Lord Voltermore

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2023, 01:40:02 PM »
So we are still a  bit in the dark, even though some on here are, or were  , professional mechanical engineers or related disciplines. (not me  :-[  )   It seems typical these days that  such details, and workshop manuals etc  are  jealously guarded professional  secrets   unless you pay business level annual subscriptions to get the data.  >:(
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Whiteshark

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2023, 02:06:31 PM »
Honda as a company are always amending , changing service intervals etc. as a result of feedback / learnt knowledge. They have always been far more advanced than the competition in this regard, but of course others learn and adapt.
Honda were the first car company, at considerable expense, many years ago to link in with IBM ( remember them), and put in a system with their dealers /agents workshops to feedback to the factory in Japan, in real time, issues that arose in everyday actual use. This enabled the factory to learn and adapt production so the next cars did not suffer the same fault……forward thinking or what ?
It therefore does not surprise me that they are always making changes and adjustments to servicing items, based on everyday experiences.

Lincolnshire Rambler

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2023, 07:32:59 PM »
I think the jazz drive train is a very clever design and could see the gears lubricated for life, with no oil change at all. Both Honda and Toyota use 12K /12.5 k mile interval (or 12 months) for the engine oil ieven thou it’s fully synthetic . VAG group go for 18 ,000 miles or two years. Why are the Japanese makers engines more reliable -you can bet the engineers know the answers about lubrication for drive trains !

GeoffW

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2023, 07:38:26 PM »
My Owner's Guide (i.e. handbook) page 304 says the transmission fluid is scheduled to be changed at 93,500 miles or 6 years, under normal conditions. It says this is for vehicles without a service book - but mine has a service book, which doesn't list the Mk4 Jazz!
I'll be checking this with the dealer when I speak to them soon about a 3 year service plan, as according to the Owner's Guide the 3rd service would or should include the transmission fluid change. No wonder we're conused.

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2024, 01:07:21 PM »
Hi everyone, I'm about to have the fourth service for my Jazz e:Hev, and the service reminder is showing also code 3, which is replace the transmission fluid.
So it seems that, even if the transmission is very simple from a mechanical point of view, Honda still prescribe to replace the fluid every 4 years.
Maybe the fact that the oil cools both electric motors contributes to the degrade, and so Honda keeps a safe approach.

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2024, 08:58:16 PM »
So here I am with the transmission fluid changed.
After several search I got the Liqui Moly Top Tec ATF 1800 R https://www.liqui-moly.com/en/gb/top-tec-atf-1800-r-p003745.html#20625
This oil is "approved" to replace the original Honda one which is used on the Jazz transmission.
I got 2 liter of it, and the mechanic told me they were enough for the replacement, indeed Honda prescribe 1.8 lt.
So far the cars is working as before, I couldn't feel any difference.

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Re: Cvt service
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2024, 07:13:35 AM »
... can anyone tell me if this hybrid system needs a transmission oil change.

The maintenance schedule for the transmission fluid of the MK4 Jazz is as follows:

- every 150'000 km / 93'500 miles or every 6 years with normal use
- every 75'000 km / 47'000 miles or every 3 years with "severe" use

The transmission fluid change has the service code 3 in the automatic service reminder system.
So we can expect to have code 3 show up anywhere between 3 and 6 years of ownership.
Your Honda dealership can tell you exactly when "element 3" is due.

At the first service after one year the diagnostics said element 3 to be due in another 1098 days which would mean another three years till transmission fluid change.


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