Honda Jazz Advance Sport Hev 2024 - speed alarm

[Kremmen]

These EU bureaucrats have a lot to answer for

Maybe they don't drive or can't afford new cars

[Lincolnshire Rambler]

I have just had a 74 plate demonstrator Crosstar for a day and it bongs along 3x each time you exceed the current speed limit . Its a nice bong sound so you may just get to ignore it …

[John Ratsey]

These EU bureaucrats have a lot to answer for

Maybe they don't drive or can't afford new cars

Or maybe the problem is that vehicle manufacturers don't put enough effort into developing a robust implementation of the requirements. They add on additional features without reviewing and improving what's there already. There's the example I mentioned above: Add a few lines of logic into the software to take account of which way the front wheels are pointing before deciding that the signs seen by the camera are relevant.

[Kremmen]

I agree, having speed alarms go off when you are on or 1mph under the limit is bad

Needs reworking

[Downsizer]

I agree, having speed alarms go off when you are on or 1mph under the limit is bad

Needs reworking

It doesn’t bong if you are on the limit, but of course your true road speed is slightly less. I find that using the adaptive cruise control set to the limit saves a lot of bongs!

[Kremmen]

Yes, true

I tend to drive at the GPS speed rather than previous over-read speedos

When they were removing the M4 hard shoulders I set my old school CC to 52mph which was 50mph GPS which meant I was faster than most but never got a ticket in the years the average speed was in force

Under those conditions I'd get bonged

[Lord Voltermore]

Depends if you are content to accept the  speedo reading as correct. I used to drive at the standalone  gps speed   on my Yaris. It meant  the speedo reading was maybe 2 -5 mph over the speed limit.  My actual speed was still legal ,but exceeding the gps speed would be  that much closer to any allowance that might, or might not, be given before getting a speeding fine.

With my previous  Mk4  I sometimes set the cruise control  at maybe 73 mph to get a genuine 70 mph . This reduced how often I was being overtaken by others ..
   When I set speed  limiters  on other roads I disliked the 'dead'  feeling when you hit the limiter.  So I tended to set it a couple  of mph over the limit  but tried to drive to the speed limit  by my speedometer. This reduced how often I hit the limiter, but still warned me if my speed drifted up too much.

 Both these practices will fall foul of the new  bong ,which would chime  if your speedometer reading  exceeds the limit.   But I dont mind the  bongs anyway and will probably use them to warn me of overspeed rather than setting  a speed limiter.  And setting cruise control  to the speed limit  is no big deal.  You only lose a few mph and save some petrol.  And if I wanted to cruise at a higher  speed than this  it only chimes as you pass through the limit threshold, not continuously. 

[Rab74]

Question: I plan to visit UK and Scotland next summer. I have a European car, so in kmph instead of mph. So if my car spots a 20 mph sign, it will think it is 20 kmph. It is 32 kmph. Would that mean a constant bonging? Can I set it to mph somewhere (which would be ideal; no more bonging in EU unless your speed would be 60% too high  )?

You think Scotland is a separate place to the UK? Better make sure your satnav is working.
You can change the Settings to show mph rather than kph. You can also set bonging to start at various speeds in excess of the detected speed limit. Good Youtube videos available. Enjoy your trip.

[Marco1979]

Oops, my mistake. I meant visiting Scotland as part of the UK. I did not mean to offend anyone or start a discussion on politics, preferences etc.
I saw YouTube vids on adjusting the bongs to be at higher speeds than posted, but unfortunately in EU this is forbidden and not available. It is not in the menu  .
Switching to mph is good advice, thanks!

[Lord Voltermore]

Oops, my mistake. I meant visiting Scotland as part of the UK. I did not mean to offend anyone or start a discussion on politics, preferences etc.

As someone who is half english,half scottish and resides in southern England I see no need for you to  to apologise . Politics and nationalism aside  even we locals  often refer to trips  by reference to their diverse regions  such as to  Scotland, Wales, or within  England -  Cornwall, the lake district, Yorkshire dales, Northumberland etc.  The scenery and topography differs and so can the personalities of the locals.
 (The old cliché that Northerners are friendly , Southerners and Londoners more  reserved etc . In my experience a lot of countries regard people  from their own capital cities as somewhat rude and arrogant.  , )
 
My previous  Garmin satnav  did regard  Scotland as a different country to England. When  still in England a search for an address or postcode in Scotland sometimes came back negative unless you also added 'SCO' or Scotland. (once actually in Scotland it found them no problem without adding SCO )   Not yet searched for Scotland with the 'here' satnav although it worked OK in Cornwall   

Back to theme,  Mrs LV was driving on the motorway, when the alarm beeped when she reached 71 mph. (Reckless maniac      )    Her passenger  crony  said "Oh , is the  50 mph speed restriction  still in place  ?"   Which speaks volumes for the silence of the Jazz compared to her own Micra. 

[Trypsin]

I’ve just discovered Renault have implemented a solution. A switch on the dash to switch on/off up to 5 driver assistance aids. It’s called My Safety and you can select a group of 5 aids to switch off as a group. Renault recognised that the assistance aids fall down on some poorly marked roads. Maybe Honda will do something similar.

[Lord Voltermore]

I’ve just discovered Renault have implemented a solution. A switch on the dash to switch on/off up to 5 driver assistance aids. It’s called My Safety and you can select a group of 5 aids to switch off as a group. Renault recognised that the assistance aids fall down on some poorly marked roads. Maybe Honda will do something similar.

Personally I hope they do not. It shouldnt be made too easy to opt out of driver safety aids.  We baby boomers are already notorious with something like 25 - 30% routinely switching them  off.  Typically because they dont like the warning bongs  or any slight steering or braking interventions they were not expecting,(but maybe should have been.)  A slight twitch  in loose  gravel,road irregularities etc is also an unexpected steering  deviation but this time its for real.  You need to be ready for that.   

I know we have been over this many times and I mean no offence to those who do switch stuff off.

The systems are driver aids, not self driving cars. Its better to learn to work i tandem with the systems, not avoid them  . Remaining alert and in full control  ,ready to overide it when necessary.  Despite having managed 'perfectly well' without it for 50 years. 

  Of course the systems are not perfect. It  sometimes misreads  the road surface etc and doesnt ' know'  you really intended to cross that white line or drive that close to the kerb etc.  The occasional  steering twitches and  change in steering feel from increased assistance when it attempts to steer me away from danger  have never been enough to take me by surprise . It stops as soon as the car detects you are indeed  alert and in control of vehicle speed and direction.   

 My new  car has the now compulsory overspeed 'chimes'.  Up to three  unobtrusive chimes if you exceed what the satnav , or sign recognition system,  thinks is the speed limit.  Just right as a warning to watch my speed and moderate it if necessary.  Or if I think the speed limit is actually higher  (40 tonne truck up your tailpipe  for instance ) it soon stops chiming.  I no longer bother setting a speed limiter through villages.  But still look out  for speed signs and hazards .Because I am in charge, and it me that has to pay any penalty, not the person who did the mapping.