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If your Jazz suffers from notchy steering, please tells us what year the car was registered

2002
6 (5.5%)
2003
8 (7.3%)
2004
6 (5.5%)
2005
21 (19.1%)
2006
17 (15.5%)
2007
24 (21.8%)
2008
28 (25.5%)

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Author Topic: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 Stiff or notchy power steering  (Read 129970 times)

guest1381

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 09:00:36 AM »
has anyone been given a reason as to why this is happening in the first place???  if this problem is happening after 2 or 3 years whats saying it wont happen again in another 2 or 3 years....

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 10:07:08 AM »
Just wondering whether or not the country of manufacture makes any difference?

Honda UK started selling chinese made Jazz cars from 2007.  Previous cars were sourced from Japan.


I've not noticed any steering issues at motorways on my low mileage chinese built 57 plater at the moment.


« Last Edit: June 09, 2010, 04:48:25 PM by bill888 »
2007(57) Jazz 1.4SE CVT-7 (GE3 - made in China)

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 08:16:18 PM »
Has anyone's Jazz failed an MoT or received an advisory because of this problem?

guest1381

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2010, 08:20:02 PM »
Took to dealer today who took it out for a test drive.  i don't know if they took it on the motorway and done 70mph which is where the problem exists as we both stated,. 

They said they done loads of checks, up on ramps, wheel pressure etc.  Couldn't find anything wrong with it?!?!.

 Having described the faults again and stressed about the safety of the car, they said Honda know about it and its a design fault?!?!?   They said theirs nothing else they can do.  and gave my gf a honda  number to ring if i want to take it further....   

Any advice as to where i stand??

thanks

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2010, 04:47:22 PM »
I would contact Honda head office direct and make a lot of noise.

You only have to read this forum to find lots of complaints about dodgy steering on some Jazzes, and if it is a well known issue they should fess up and do the right thing, (neither of our two Jazzes has had this fault though).

Because the Jazz has 'electric' steering the problem may not be the rack at all, but just the servo control system that needs adjusting.

Some people will only consider you an expert if they agree with your point of view or advice,  when you give them advice they don't like they consider you an idiot

guest1437

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 10:40:41 PM »
I have the same  problem with the Jazz, ie. tugging , notchy, stiffness and   wandering on a straight road is a common experience with Jazz drivers as mine is the same. I took the dealer on a test drive but he couldn't see the problem.
 

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2010, 07:10:20 PM »
My 57 plate Jazz has just been in for the power window switch recall. As it is still under warranty (2.5 years old and 19k on the clock), I asked if they could check the steering as it was 'stiff' at motorway speeds.

The problem manifested itself as a slight reluctance to change direction if the car had been driven straight for a while or to come out of a long bend.

The dealer then contacted me to say that they were replacing the steering rack!

As there seem to have been a few racks replaced among you, I wonder if this is a regular Jazz problem?

Also, does anyone suffer from the occasional buzzing noise? It sounds like a mobile on vibrate that's slipped down the back of the passenger seat. I cannot locate it or its cause.

Cheers all,

David

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2010, 04:09:19 PM »

Also, does anyone suffer from the occasional buzzing noise? It sounds like a mobile on vibrate that's slipped down the back of the passenger seat. I cannot locate it or its cause.

Cheers all, David


A wild guess David but as we sit above the fuel tank could the fuel pump be considered as the source of your buzz?

Does anybody know where it is?

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2010, 10:00:03 AM »
The fuel pump is located in the tank but I've never heard it whilst driving.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2010, 12:41:55 PM »
Hi
I own a Honda Jazz 1.4 SE model, 2005 reg. I bought it few months ago in a private sale and has done only 24 K miles so far. I have got exactly the same problem as described by various people in this thread.
In short my problems can be summarised as:
 - Steering appears more or less normal when car is not running and engine on
- At normal driving speeds, the steering appears to be sticky or glued when trying to steer it. It does not self centre, needs manual correction, else car can deviate to either side.
 - The problem appears to exist only for a short range on either side of central position of the steering, may be for 45 - 60 degree angle,  after that the steering is indeed light.

I notified this issue when I took the car for a routine servicing to the local honda dealer recently. They said it is a problem with the steering rack. It would not get any worse. But to repair it they would need to replace the entire steering assembly and, yes, it would cost about £1400 (almost a third of the current value of the car)
I contacted Honda UK (via email) few weeks ago detailing these issues (also included the URL of this thread)
I got a call from my local honda dealer yesterday that they would do the repair for me if I can pay for the service charge and honda uk will supply the part free of cost. (My car is outside the 3 year honda warranty). The service charge may be £250 - 300. Anyway I agreed to do it and I hope the repair would be done next week. Shall post the result of the repair later.

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2010, 11:24:48 AM »
Hi everyone

I joined the forum to reply to this thread as I have had the exact same problems with my 2006 Honda Jazz. The steering is sticky, needs constant correction, etc. I bought it two weeks ago from an independent dealer and the steering has been re-alligned twice since then. The problem remained, so I had my local garage check it out. They have found stiffness in the steering rack and have recommended it be replaced. The part alone is going to cost £1050 plus labour costs. My local garage are communicating with the dealer to see if the three month warranty covers the cost of this repair.

I'm gutted. This is the newest car I've ever owned. Until recently, I was driving a 1997 Astra, which looked old and battered but never gave me any problems. It took me nearly a year to save up for the Jazz. I wanted a nice new car, but I find myself wishing I'd kept the old banger!

I can't afford to pay anywhere near £1000, so if this is a problem that's going to repeat itself once the warranty expires, then I'll have no choice but to sell the car. I really want to love my Jazz, but right now I'm just wishing I had gone for a Polo or another Astra.

I'd like some opinions, please. Do you think that replacing the steering assembly will solve the problem? Or is this a common fault that I should expect to reappear?

Many thanks in advance.

Coco.

Coco xx

guest150

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2010, 11:36:42 AM »
I started the thread and have since had the steering rack replaced under warranty. The 'sticky/notchy' steering has been eradicated but the car's steering I would still rate as poor. It is still very woolly with little feel. I drive a relatives Mazda 2 occasionally and that has very direct and responsive steering that is a joy in comaprison to the Jazz.

So it's a not an easy decision to make but if Honda or the independant dealer contribute to the repair in any way I would perhaps consider it.

guest1460

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2010, 11:56:27 AM »
Thank you for the quick and helpful response.

If the warranty covers the cost, then I will give it some time and see how the steering feels once it has been fixed.

Do you know if Honda are aware of this common fault? And if so, have they done anything about it?

Thanks again.

guest150

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2010, 12:18:34 PM »
They may well be aware of it and as far as I know the new Jazz has a slightly different steeting set up.

If you can get the steering fault repaired you might end up being happy with your Jazz. It is an excellent car with loads of space and makes a lot of sense as a family runabout. We have had two and it is a real pity about the steering and some other build quality issues as it's such a well designed little car.

Best of Luck!

guest1460

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Re: Stiff power steering
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2010, 01:23:08 PM »
I know what you mean - I really want to love my Jazz, but the steering is so bad, I can't see past it. I love the look of the car and the space inside, and the little extras like all-round electric windows, which a lot of cars of the same size (e.g. polo) don't have.

The dealer says he'll have to drive the car himself to judge the problem. I can't get to the dealer (an hour's drive away) until the weekend, so in the meantime I'm going to take it to a power steering specialist and see what he says.

Thanks again for your responses.


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