Green Party Manifesto

[peteo48]

Just a random thought. I watched the ITN interviews with the other party leaders at 10 pm last night. Nina Hussain put it to Sian Berry of the Green Party that leaving the EU might present opportunities for a greener agenda (not her wording but to that effect). Made me think. EU state aid rules mandate that we charge VAT on certain carbon saving products like solar panels and the rate was due to go up to 20%. There may genuinely be opportunities here. I voted remain but this shows that there are areas where EU regs inhibit the ability to make positive changes in some areas.

[madasafish]

The problem is, something has to be done if OUR world is to survive. And what has to be done will not be easy, popular or welcomed. The Greens ideas are good, it is just the implementing of them that is the problem.
We will eventually have to give up on our petrol and diesel vehicles, gas central heating will have to go and wind and wave will eventually have to supply our energy. At least, here in the UK, we are never far from tidal energy, and it is reliable and constant.

I accept climate change is man made.

So teh FIRST and BASIC - sorry for shouting but it's obvious- thing to do is stop population growth. As more people mean more heating, more housing and building and more energy use..
No point in reducing energy use by 20% and then increasing the population by 16% over the next 50 years..

"The UK population is projected to pass 70 million by mid 2031, reaching 72.4 million by 25 years into the projection (mid 2043)."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationprojections/bulletins/nationalpopulationprojections/2018based

Currently it is c 67M.. So an 8% increase in 25 years -and roughly 16% in 50 years..

Surprisingly enough NoOne says so..

(I avoid talking why or the political repercussions)

Get teh basics right - solve the main issue as well as tackle the seconday ones..

Will not happen - too many sacred cows in the way...

[Jocko]

UK population growth is driven by immigration more than childbirth. So those people populate the world, wherever they live.

[culzean]

UK population growth is driven by immigration more than childbirth. So those people populate the world, wherever they live.

It is driven by immigration and immigrant childbirth ( immigrants tend to have much larger families than white anglo saxon protestants - WASPS ).

Not sure what your point is about 'those people people populate the world wherever they live' -  of course we all live on the same planet but an increase in any country is bad news for use of resources and pollution, and a lot of food in UK is imported so increase in UK has repercussions for land use in countries as far away as New Zealand and Argentina.

[richardfrost]

Yes, they are talking about soya products instead of meat, but soya production has led to massive amounts of Brazil's deforestation. I am glad I have not long to go as the thought of going vegetarian makes me puke (I am a Scot, my 5 a day is 5 portions of chips).

Well chips are vegetarian aren’t they? 

[sparky Paul]

Well chips are vegetarian aren’t they? 

Maybe not in beef dripping! 

[Jocko]

No, no. I am on a health kick. Deep fried in Vegetable Oil.

[peteo48]

I've got Type 2 Diabetes (just over the line so medication not required). Anyway, Jocko, went to a presentation at my local surgery by a GP who specialises in diabetes. Butter and Lard back on the menu - low fat spreads off!!!

The new mantra is "Fat is my friend" - not sugar or milk chocolate though so deep fried Mars Bars not allowed

[Jocko]

I am back losing weight, and I eat quite a lot of fat in my diet. It is the Carbs I try to avoid. They are the culprit. Many years ago the doctor would tell you to stay off the bread, potatoes and sugar. Then a doctor, with some US board of health, decided carbs were healthy (since refuted by evidence). The US government ran with it and the obesity epidemic started. Despite worldwide proof otherwise, and the findings of many UK doctors, the NHS still advocate carbs for losing weight

[culzean]

I've got Type 2 Diabetes (just over the line so medication not required). Anyway, Jocko, went to a presentation at my local surgery by a GP who specialises in diabetes. Butter and Lard back on the menu - low fat spreads off!!!

The new mantra is "Fat is my friend" - not sugar or milk chocolate though so deep fried Mars Bars not allowed

Due to a flawed heart disease trial in the 1960's the advice has been 'fat is the devil, it will kill you' - since then many trials have been done that say the cholesterol in our food is a tiny fraction of the cholesterol our liver makes every day - and cholesterol is needed by our body and there is no such thing as good and bad cholesterol - but the 'fat is bad message still ruthlessly pushed by medical establishment'  truth is there is an awful lot of cholesterol needed by our body,  and our brain especially. Now there are studies linking statins ( those pills the doctors can't wait to get everyone in the country popping every day ) to brain degeneration ( alzheimers ).   Sugar and caffeine are the real enemies - the first goes straight to body fat and the second messes with you blood glucose big-time and can exhaust your insulin production capacity.  My doctor did an HBA1c blood test last year and i was just nudging over into pre-diabetes - so I bought a blood glucose tester and decided to test myself a couple of times a day for a month to see what affected my blood glucose - first thing in a morning and more than 2 hours after meals it was pretty much always nearer 5 than 6, - its all to do with the glyceamic index ( GI ) of foods and sugar and starches are the worst,  but also caffiene gives a higher reading.  I have lost a couple of stone ( was never really fat,  BMI was 29 ) and now just over 12 stone and things looking good,  but I eat lots of fat and will soak up the bacon fat with bread - yummmmmm.  Off sugar completely and only decaff tea and coffee. 

[sparky Paul]

I am back losing weight

Me too Jocko, perhaps we could start a support group 

[Jocko]

Have a look here.

https://www.fatsecret.co.uk/

[richardfrost]

I am back losing weight

Me too Jocko, perhaps we could start a support group 

Gotta improve the MPG also!

[peteo48]

I am back losing weight

Me too Jocko, perhaps we could start a support group 

Gotta improve the MPG also!

 

[peteo48]

Isn't it something like every 100 pounds of weight can save up to 2%.

I might start billing the wife for all the lifts I give her!