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Jocko

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2670 on: March 20, 2023, 06:51:29 PM »
Not just in cans. They used to sell petrol by the jar. Mind you. The car needed a full service and oil change for every jar of petrol used.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2671 on: March 21, 2023, 10:19:51 AM »
I can remember  buying paraffin at the hardware shop or from mobile Esso Blue and Aladdin pink  vans

Some petrol stations had a special 'two stroke' petrol pump that dispensed it ready mixed.  But most just had a portable  container of two stroke oil, where you squirted a dose of oil in your tank before filling with petrol.

In Asia I have seen roadside vendors displaying bottles of petrol for motorcyclists  . (and street sellers selling a single cigarette - normal tobacco ones  ;) )
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« Reply #2672 on: March 21, 2023, 11:58:06 AM »
When I was a teenager the local shops would sell "a thrupenny single".

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2673 on: March 21, 2023, 12:05:59 PM »
I would love an electric car but today I was doing a bit of battery charging and I thought, "do I need more of this". I have to charge and recharge, on a regular basis:
Mobile phone
Laptop
Toothbrush
Kindle
Fitbit
Torch
Water flosser
Camera
Flashgun
Tyre pump
Dashcam power supply
Numerous rechargeable batteries used in remotes and the like.

Do I really want to have to charge my car up as well?

Mind you, I connect my ICE car to the SMART charger every time I return from a journey (which involves unlocking and re-locking the garage each time) so an EV might be easier.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2674 on: May 23, 2023, 06:57:30 PM »

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2675 on: May 24, 2023, 05:58:46 PM »
This could be the breakthrough EVs are waiting for.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/electric-car-battery-range-record-b2343579.html
One side-effect of the higher battery capacity is that it is likely to take twice as long to recharge. Will it also be proportionately more expensive?
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2676 on: May 24, 2023, 08:08:47 PM »
Just completed a long transcontinental trip. Twice I got held up by Trucks 'elephant racing'  . (ie blocking both lanes for about 5 miles because one  attempts  to overtake the others and cannot manage it)

The relevance?  On both occasions,  hidden among the herd of 'elephants' struggling up the hill  (so slowly one  truck got impatient)  was a Tesla  . It appeared to be  tailgating the the trucks to gain from their slipstream to hypermile its range. Car traffic was light so in both cases it was driver choice to remain in the herd. 

If thats what it may take to get home or to the next charging point count me out. A view of the back of a truck and anxiously watching your remaining range ticking down. :o

Even with a 1000km  range the route we took and the hotels we used would not have been possible.  The infrastructure and charging time needs of the car  would dictate   our plans.    And no doubt 1000km range is under ideal conditions, with warm weather, modest speed, flat terrain, and as much as possible switched off.   

  And as John says I expect the battery maker and car maker will want their development investment back before rivals catch up. 
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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2677 on: May 26, 2023, 11:19:43 AM »
I think you two haven't clicked and read the whole article. Price will be competitive and charge time appropriate. For me, the main issue is the capacity in the network to provide that amount of charge in the shortest time possible, for multiple vehicles at highway charge stations.

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Re: Electric cars
« Reply #2678 on: May 27, 2023, 07:57:25 AM »
Probably not all 179 pages   :-[  I am not anti EV's   . I'd love for them to be viable. One day EV 's and my needs will match. 

I saw Tesla chargers at the Eurotunnel  Terminal. I could have got out of bed half an hour earlier to allow time for a quick recharge before crossing to France.    I didnt see another charging point  in my 1500 + mile journey. To be fair I wasnt looking for them, or planning my journey around them ,or driving further out of my way to reach them.

Maybe they are available on motorways service areas  , but I preferred to save 0.50 euro per litre buying petrol in small local filling stations. (with no 30 minute plus charging time )   Saved enough cash to pay for Dinner. :-* Yes maybe I have a higher carbon footprint but I economise elsewhere - walking to the shops etc.

 
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