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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Startling experience
« Last post by Lord Voltermore on October 02, 2023, 07:43:48 AM »
It's like other 'features' insisted on by NCAP. Some of us hate them and have had issues whilst others like them.

I've tried ACC a few times and every time it's caused me problems with unexpected braking and harsh acceleration.

So for me it stays off, along with RDMS, just my opinion.
Fair enough.  I only use ACC on motorways and a few other major roads  in reasonably light traffic. Its  really useful for long distance cruising at a steady fuel efficient speed.  But traffic congestion can reach a level where I have to overide ACC so often i might as well leave it off.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Startling experience
« Last post by Kremmen on October 02, 2023, 07:35:01 AM »
It's like other 'features' insisted on by NCAP. Some of us hate them and have had issues whilst others like them.

I've tried ACC a few times and every time it's caused me problems with unexpected braking and harsh acceleration.

So for me it stays off, along with RDMS, just my opinion.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Keeping within the 20mph limit Wales!
« Last post by Marmoset on October 02, 2023, 07:21:40 AM »
The roads in my London borough are pretty much all 20mph, the exception being main roads which run through multiple boroughs; these are administered by Transport for London and tend to have varying speeds of 50, 40, 30 and, at junctions, etc, 20mph. TfL recently indicated that there would be more 20mph zones introduced where needed.  It's not a ''blanket'' 20mph thing but the rhetoric about ''blanket bans'' may have much to do with the Conservatives' attempts to replace Khan as London mayor. 

I haven't found that keeping to 20mph is any more difficult than keeping to 30mph - all it needs is a reasonable sense of how fast you're actually going. Journey times are only very slightly affected at 20 but the effect of improved safety for more vulnerable road users is far greater. 
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: D & B Mode on Advance Sport
« Last post by aphybrid on October 02, 2023, 07:14:41 AM »
On the upside: The paddles give the same decelaration/recuperation up to B-mode only with finer adjustment plus they allow cruise control (which is impossible in B-mode)

B mode cruise control a good thing.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Startling experience
« Last post by Lord Voltermore on October 02, 2023, 07:14:11 AM »
I expect ACC to slow me down if it detects other traffic around me. . I dont expect it to be able to plan ahead  so it doesnt get boxed in by other traffic.  That my job. Its not a self driving car.   If it does get boxed in, or wary of adjacent traffic, it may sometimes  be reluctant to accelerate  automatically  if I pull into an adjacent lane.    The solution is simple. I accelerate manually.    Its not switching ACC off. Or the  ACC failing in its purpose.  Simply the real driver overiding a drivers aid and driving manually for a short time.   In fact I often manually overide acceleration as ACC is inclined to manically race the engine to regain lost  speed as quickly as possible.   Its a shame you cant alter this in settings.   

    Sometimes the opposite happens, If the lane ahead is free of traffic the ACC may undertake or overtake  other traffic in a situation when I dont want it to. ACC only sees an empty space. i see other drivers who are potentially about to do something.  I simply tap the brakes to overide ACC.  Then - shock horror,  :o- I have to control speed manually, like in the old days ,   until I can resume  ACC with a flick of steering wheel switch..

No offence to those who may have had startling experiences but I think its a good thing that drivers should remain alert and anticipate traffic, and  need to overide ACC occasionally. Otherwise its you that is  switched off.   The UK highway code is quite clear on this.  Drivers must  be in control of any driver aids.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Air Bags & Vans.
« Last post by ColinB on October 02, 2023, 07:11:16 AM »
Look at all the safety stuff mandated on new cars. Collision avoidance sensors, autonomous braking, LKAS etc. Yet if it's a van, just a drivers airbag!

Those are the kind of systems that are now being rated by NCAP, so you can expect manufacturers to pay more attention now. Remember these are designed as commercial vehicles so the emphasis is not on passenger safety. More info from Thatcham here:
https://www.smmt.co.uk/2023/09/van-collision-avoidance-new-safety-ratings/
And the actual NCAP list is here:
https://preview.thenewsmarket.com/Previews/NCAP/DocumentAssets/637596.pdf
The collision avoidance systems aren’t universally fitted, but at least this gives you an idea on models where they might be present.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: Noise when driving over low speed bumps
« Last post by Kremmen on October 02, 2023, 05:06:43 AM »
I didn't think the MK4 needed a protector ?

Cat in the engine bay and the Jazz, not the Crosstar, has an undertray
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: Keeping within the 20mph limit Wales!
« Last post by Kremmen on October 02, 2023, 05:00:36 AM »
 :o 20 or 30



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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: 1st Service
« Last post by Kremmen on October 02, 2023, 04:57:05 AM »
Change that to 3 dealers of choice. They all admitted they get premature maintenance reminder visits and after checking mileage and use they send the customer away after resetting or cancelling the reminder.

But, that doesn't account for the service due date dropping from 360 days to 190 in about a month. This wasn't due to adverse or heavy right foot driving but just normal UK mixed roads where I was driving about 140 miles a month with the majority of that being 30 mile journeys so not low mileage urban shopping trips.

However, after resetting it back to 365 days for all categories it did seem to behave itself before the first annual service when it was turned off.
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Help with low mileage Jazz
« Last post by rizlagunner on October 02, 2023, 03:11:35 AM »
Hi guys,

I was looking for an old Honda Jazz (mk2), as I needed something to run around in with the occasional longer journey and I have identified a Jazz 2012 (Japanese import Fit). It fits my budget, around 5.5k but what really attracted me was the low mileage on this, around 11,500 miles, the outer condition is very sound and almost new. This is something I have verified independently online through the car's export documents so I know it is genuine mileage with no accidents, but my real concern is what happens to a Jazz over 10 years if it hasn't been used much at all? What should be my immediate concerns buying this car, is there any chance of corrosion? How likely is it that the IMA hybrid battery has degraded and might land me with an expensive bill? I am buying the car to be able to drive 3-4 years hassle free, I don't care about resale but the fact that the car has been used so little is something that is bothering me because of the age of the car.

Any help would be welcome. Thanks.
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