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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Auto stop and battery indicator
« Last post by sghc on Today at 03:01:00 PM »
The stop-start actually is barred from working if you have the ventilation airflow directed to Windscreen, whether or not you are using the AC, just as it is inhibited when the AC is operating. Try it! Press firmly! Quite apart from cold engine or in any circumstances when any engine might be less easy to start (Never mind about autostarting).
I was sceptical at first as to the refinement of the stop start mechanism, but in the Jazz its really smooth compared to other brands of my experience. I now see no point in disliking it.
In fact, unlike others I'm reading here for the first time, its a very modern car, better then even the excellent previous Jazz in several ways, and I just have to get used to its various new ways, and agree to like it and stop carping! We weren't forced to buy one!
However the feeble dipped-headlights for me are something else, and a disappointment. No-one ever takes a test drive in the dark! The very latest EX now has LED headlights and the legally required auto levelling sensors, so regrettably not possible to upgrade an ES Navi grade to LED.   :(
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by JimSh on Today at 02:52:43 PM »
Why should we not be allowed to change our minds ?

But you haven't changed your mind. You didn't want to leave then and you don't want to leave now. Same as most of the Remoaners.
No I haven't changed my mind. You haven't changed your mind.

I asked "why shouldn't we be allowed to change our minds?" (See question about sandwich in last post)
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 02:29:41 PM »
Why should we not be allowed to change our minds ?

But you haven't changed your mind. You didn't want to leave then and you don't want to leave now. Same as most of the Remoaners.
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Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 / Re: Battery drain
« Last post by Jocko on Today at 02:23:32 PM »
Checked my car and you are correct. You do have to push the key in to turn it to position 0. It is something I have done for years and it is just automatic!
Your lock barrel is worn or faulty. You should not be able to remove the key in Position I but I wouldn't worry about it. Not worth replacing the barrel for.

I take it you don't have a manual. Get one here
https://en.zofti.com/open?idm=2714

UK one I downloaded appears to have been withdrawn, but this is better than nothing.
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by JimSh on Today at 02:22:16 PM »
Hi

The time for quoting any figures for/against is over. It finished when the referendum was held.

The government placed its trust and faith in the voters and the result was leave




Why should we not be allowed to change our minds ?
The referendum was based on false promises.
They told us we'd be saving £350m a week for the NHS now they're stockpiling medicines and assuring us there will be enough.
They said it would be dead easy to leave the EU and now nearly 3 years later they're scrabbling at the last minute.
Liam Fox said they would be queuing at the door to deal with us when we leave and now he says we should be celebrating when he makes a deal with the Faroe Islands (and its just the same deal we had when we were in the EU)

The result has just been made into some sort of religious icon. "The will of the people"

Would I cut my throat to spite my nose - yes under curtain circumstances and I have previously done just that - why - because I have principles and only like to deal with genuine people


The trouble is it's not just your throat. Everybody else is affected including your children and grand children.

There's a couple of good analogies in this article from the independent this morning.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-march-protest-theresa-may-no-deal-eu-put-it-to-people-a8834941.html

What kind of sandwich would you choose?

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What kind of sandwich would you choose?
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Auto stop and battery indicator
« Last post by peteo48 on Today at 01:58:43 PM »
The system is happiest when the vehicle is in daily use, even if only shortish journeys, and gets upset (confused) when use is less frequent even if the journeys are longer. In my experience it's more temperamental during winter months with lower temperatures. As my usage is usually fewer but longer trips I'm resigned to putting the battery on charge the day before in the hope and expectation that the auto-stop will then be happy about the battery condition.

I suspect that the Honda engineers have made the logic over-cautious in the quest for ensuring that the engine would never auto-stop and then hesitate, or fail, to restart which would infuriate customers a lot more than the engine not stopping when expected.

That is almost certainly covers my experience John. It doesn't get used every day and the issues are almost always in the cooler weather.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Auto stop and battery indicator
« Last post by Downsizer on Today at 01:22:43 PM »
You shock me when you say the price of a new battery is £170!  I paid the AA £70 for fitting a Yuasa replacement for my Mk 2 when I got stuck; is the battery for the Mk3 so very different?
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Auto stop and battery indicator
« Last post by orcadian on Today at 01:10:39 PM »
Thanks Peteo and John,
Yes I’ve come to accept that the Honda architecture designer boffins know better than we do - and would not want the wrath of customers whose cars won’t start in a queue on a motorway.  I also have a 2000 Supercharged Daimler and if the battery is less than fully charged it throws up all kinds of ‘fruit machine’ messages on the display indicating that there are multiple expensive faults which disappear almost immediately - all it needed was a ‘charge the damn battery’ message.

As I’ve said many times, I’m not really that bothered about the stop start, especially here in Orkney but wanted to be able to poke the dealer with a sharp stick if it needed a battery so early in its life with us.  We both still love the car though and I’ve now had all the wheels off to check everything the ‘Approved’ label should have thrown up.  I had to resort to a very large Thor rawhide hammer to get the wheels to come off to clean the alloy fur from the centre bosses - they had never been off - ever!  I’ve always had a chuckle to myself when I see ‘guaranteed used cars’ Yes they can guarantee they have been used!

What with the blank service book, an old jack included (which should not have been) which is stamped Audi VW and no initial V5 plus the paint chips not being attended to as agreed I really should have put it in the hands of Mother Honda - that Dealership is definitely off my list - their multi point check list is a farce.

Thanks again,
Ian
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by zzaj on Today at 12:54:04 PM »

BTW Have you thought of any advantages to leaving the EU.


17,410,742 million people did (52% of those who bothered to vote for what was thought, at the time, to be a lost cause. That's a 4% majority which is pretty significant).

Just to refresh people's memory:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
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Off Topic (Non-Honda) / Re: WTO rules?
« Last post by culzean on Today at 12:45:45 PM »

So why would we ever have a referendum on anything?

Good point. It was a stupid idea in the first place.

Does the same apply for the Scottish Devolution Referendum of 1997 and the Scottish Independence Referendum?

+1  Nice one !

so no more indyrefs allowed then,  great, although I think the English should be able to vote in the next one,  it would be 90% for Scotland leaving and 10% remain..

'Who will rid us of this troublesome country' - although I love the Scottish I hate their politicians ( and a lot of Scots probably do as well ).
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