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Title: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: johnboro on August 16, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
Hi guys,

I'm picking between a few different used MK1s, 2007/2008. All 1.4 SE and 50-70k miles. On the back of my previous experience and this excellent forum I've made a point of finding out from the servicing dealerships whether the gearbox bearings have been replaced. There doesn't seem to be much other expensive stuff to go wrong, but if I got one that had been subject to the bearings warranty extension without having the work done (and is now unable to have the work done as it's too late) I'd find that a worry, I think.

Two of them (47k and 67k miles) are China-built VINs, one with full Honda FSH and one with part-Honda FSH. Those appear not to have had the gearbox work done, as it doesn't appear on their histories with the dealerships.

The other is a Japan built (1 year older) VIN and I have confirmed with the servicing Honda dealership it had the gearbox bearings replaced in 2014 with part of the cost paid by Honda as goodwill. Also a few hundred quid cheaper.

So:
- Am I right in thinking the third option is best, all else being equal? Seems to give me peace of mind re the gearbox having been done already, and I'd rather not rely on the sketchy 3rd party warranties to cover it.
- Anything else I should be on the lookout for in terms of repair history?

Thanks a lot!  8)
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: Jocko on August 16, 2018, 06:20:33 PM
I have a Japan made 2006 and I had my gearbox bearings replaced. Cost me £324, all inclusive, by a gearbox specialist, and I am glad I had it done. Bearing didn't start to rumble until 90K. First price I got, from a local garage with an ex-Honda mechanic on the staff, was £1100.
Basically, what I am saying, is, if it was me I would be swayed towards the one that has been done, all else equal.
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: sparky Paul on August 17, 2018, 02:00:13 PM
Jazzes with noisy gearboxes are worth very little, I've seen otherwise good little cars locally for as little as £250. The way I look at it, if you are going to buy one with no warranty or knowledge that the gearbox has already been done, you may as well buy one for peanuts with a noisy gearbox and get it fixed yourself.

In other words, buy the one with the gearbox already fixed. At least the gearbox should be good for the rest of the life of the car, and that is pretty much the only weak bit.
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: johnboro on August 17, 2018, 03:54:49 PM
Thanks guys.

I think I’m going for it, I noticed a little water in the spare wheel well and rear passenger side is a bit damp though. I’ve negotiated a few hundred quid off for this after that was what the local Honda dealership quoted me to fix the known boot seal leak issue out of warranty. Sound sensible enough and any experiences on getting that known leak sorted?

Thanks
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: Jocko on August 17, 2018, 04:34:19 PM
Quite a bit on here about it. Seems fairly easy, though thankfully I have never had to do it myself. Just a case of lifting the roof trim rails, cleaning out the gunge, then resealing. I'll see if I can find the post.
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: Jocko on August 17, 2018, 04:38:47 PM
Have a look here.
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8759.msg45699#msg45699 (https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=8759.msg45699#msg45699)
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: johnboro on August 17, 2018, 05:46:38 PM
Thanks a lot. What an excellent forum. Making my first few journeys with a spare couple of silica bead bags in case it rains, then I'll get a dealership on to the leak. Anybody on here who managed to get in done with any goodwill contribution within the last few years, do pipe up.

All the best to you guys for helping, good motoring.
Cheers
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: dongagon on March 01, 2019, 01:45:17 PM
I have a Japan made 2006 and I had my gearbox bearings replaced. Cost me £324, all inclusive, by a gearbox specialist, and I am glad I had it done. Bearing didn't start to rumble until 90K. First price I got, from a local garage with an ex-Honda mechanic on the staff, was £1100.
Basically, what I am saying, is, if it was me I would be swayed towards the one that has been done, all else equal.

My i aske where you had your bearings replaced?
Title: Re: Choice between used MK1s, one has the gearbox fixed
Post by: Jocko on March 01, 2019, 01:50:59 PM
Topgear, in Rutherglen (http://www.topgear.uk.net/home.html)