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Karoq

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Help Please. 2012 jazz
« on: August 18, 2023, 05:48:33 PM »
SWMBO's JazzFront ventilated discs seem to have a 2mm lip. Is that considered to need replacing?
They certainly don't seem very 'meaty'
many thanks.
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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2023, 06:40:51 PM »
The minimum thickness, should be engraved/stamped on the rim of the disc, or perhaps the hub face

They should be measured with a micrometer across the polished area of the disc.
In my opinion, in the absence of any reliable guide, they should have been changed a long time ago.
Some of that lip will be rust, but the majority of it will be wear.

There are notes on the web which suggest that any wear should be around 2mm max, ie 1mm per side.

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2023, 06:57:18 PM »
SWMBO's JazzFront ventilated discs seem to have a 2mm lip. Is that considered to need replacing?
They certainly don't seem very 'meaty'
many thanks.
Get a heavy flat-bladed screwdriver, support it against something solid and while spinning the disc scrape the rust off (like a woodworking lathe). That will let you see what is rust and what is wear. It will almost all be rust.

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2023, 07:48:15 PM »
The manual has the service limit as 19.0 mm (0.75 in.) - states that new they are 20.9−21.1 mm (0.82−0.83 in.)

http://hondafitjazz.com/manual3/index.html


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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2023, 08:31:39 PM »
The manual has the service limit as 19.0 mm (0.75 in.) - states that new they are 20.9−21.1 mm (0.82−0.83 in.)

http://hondafitjazz.com/manual3/index.html

So, not far out with my ‘gestimate’  :-X

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2023, 08:55:41 PM »
So, not far out with my ‘gestimate’  :-X
About spot on I'd say!  :D

 

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2023, 05:23:03 PM »
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I very recently replaced discs and pads on 2013 Jazz. Blue Print brand, £70 inc P&P from CarPartsInMotion ebay store.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2023, 10:35:38 AM by RichardA »

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2023, 11:46:48 AM »
 Another recommendation for Blue Print pads and disks. Got them on both the front and the rear. No issues at all over 5+ years (remember virtually zero milage during Covid).

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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2023, 12:32:10 PM »
If you are able to do such relatively straightforward work yourself, fitting new discs and pads is a fairly cheap maintenance job on smaller cars. It's only when you get to larger and heavier cars that the prices tend to get a bit juicy. I recently helped a friend fit new pads all round on a Merc C class estate, the pads and wear sensors alone were £100, discs were still comfortably in spec but would have added a further £200 and he doesn't intend to keep the car much longer so just did the pads.

A set of front discs and pads for cars like the Jazz, Yaris, Fiesta etc is usually comfortably under £100 from motor factors. I like to use Brembo where available, but I'm sure other brands available from reputable UK motor factors are perfectly OK. At this price point I don't usually mess about with old discs, just replace the set.

As with tyres, I tend to replace brakes earlier rather than later. £100 for brakes is trivial compared to usual fuel/insurance/tax costs over the same distance.


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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2023, 12:38:46 PM »
Many thanks for all your replies.
You have confirmed my thinking the re the approx 19mm.
In the days of yore, I would have replaced them myself as I have done so in the past.
Unfortunately, with no lift other than a jack and with a very bad back at 77y.o. it is time to pay to get the garage to do the job.
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Re: Help Please. 2012 jazz
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2023, 02:53:04 PM »
When I got new Toyo tyres fitted at Protyre, they advised the pads were low. So, I asked them to quote for discs & pads. They said Brembo items fitted for £220 inc vat. To be honest, I thought that sounded reasonable. Gives you a ball park.

 

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