Anyone got a Hybrid?

[guest3292]

Just done first big trip in my Hybrid ... very pleased with it. The computer indicated 62.9mpg for a long (mainly motorway) trip - checking that against actual fuel at the next fill up  indicates a true consumption nearer 60mpg.

As a side issue - anyone know what these symbols (the key and the two arrows) on the previous trips mpg display mean ?



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[Ozzie]

The mpg indicated is for each journey, and I believe that is what the icons are indicating.

[dfconnolly]

Thanks Ozzie

What spec or year model/type do the compatible steel spare wheels come from? Spare wheel bag?

I presume that the spare you have is a Vauxhall one? also I might just check to see if the wifes '55 CVT-7 spacesaver is compatible - if anybody already knows - then shout up!

Also thanks for initiating the Hybrid section in the forum

 

[guest3331]

Just an observation from an Insight owner. You can postpone uphill charging by shifting to S and selecting higher gears with the paddles. It prevents the CVT from compensating.

[Ozzie]

Thanks Ozzie

What spec or year model/type do the compatible steel spare wheels come from? Spare wheel bag?

I presume that the spare you have is a Vauxhall one? also I might just check to see if the wifes '55 CVT-7 spacesaver is compatible - if anybody already knows - then shout up!

Also thanks for initiating the Hybrid section in the forum

 

When you order you quote the spec required, let the dealer send the correct wheel, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Vauxhall-Corsa-Astra-15-steel-wheel-/160826569689?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET&hash=item257202b3d9

Spare wheel bags are here, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMART-SAVER-SPARE-WHEEL-TYRE-COVER-BAG-R-12-13-14-15-16-/320920394098?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ab8589972

[Ozzie]

Going by the web a;; these wheels should fit too
Audi 50    4 x 100
Audi 80 (iki 1986 m.)    4 x 100
Audi Coupe 1.8, GL    4 x 100
Audi Coupe GT (iki 1985 m.)    4 x 100
BMW Mini    4 x 100
BMW 3 serija (E30)    4 x 100
BMW 3 Series E30    4x100
BMW New Mini    4x100
Daewoo Cielo    4 x 100
Daewoo Espero    4 x 100
Daewoo Lanos    4 x 100
Daewoo Nexia    4 x 100
Daewoo Nubira    4 x 100
Daewoo Racer    4 x 100
Daewoo Espero, Nubira, Lanus, Nexia    4 x 100
Daihatsu Applause    4 x 100
Daihatsu Cab 1000    4 x 100
Daihatsu Charade (nuo 1987 m.)    4 x 100
Daihatsu Cuore    4 x 100
Daihatsu Grand Move    4 x 100
Daihatsu Move    4 x 100
Daihatsu Sirion    4 x 100
Daihatsu Applause, Charade, Gran Move    4 x 100
Daihatsu Sirion    4 x 100
Honda CRX    4 x 100
Honda Civic    4 x 100
Honda Concerto    4 x 100
Honda Accord (iki 1992 m.)    4 x 100
Honda Integra    4 x 100
Honda Jazz    4 x 100
Honda Prelude (iki 1992 m.)    4 x 100
Honda Quintet    4 x 100
Honda Civic    4x100
Honda Civic / CRX    4x100
Honda Jazz    4x100
Honda Civic, CRX, Concerto, Prelude >91, Accord >91    4 x 100
Hyundai Getz    4x100
Kia Concord    4 x 100
Kia Leo    4 x 100
Kia Mentor    4 x 100
Kia Sephia    4 x 100
Kia Shuma    4 x 100
Kia Mentor / Shuma    4x100
Kia Rio    4x100
Kia Sephia, Mentor, Concord, Shuma    4 x 100
Lotus Esprit (iki 1981 m.)    4 x 100
Lotus Esprit 2, 3 (iki 1984 m.)    4 x 100
Mazda 121 (iki 1996 m.)    4 x 100
Mazda 323    4 x 100
Mazda MX3    4 x 100
Mazda MX5    4 x 100
Mazda Demio    4 x 100
Mazda 323    4x100
Mazda Demio    4x100
Mazda MX3    4x100
Mazda MX5 / Miata    4x100
Mazda 121 >95, 323, Demio, MX3, MX5    4 x 100
MG ZR    4x100
MG ZS    4x100
Mitsubishi Carisma    4 x 100
Mitsubishi Colt (nuo 1992 m.)    4 x 100
Mitsubishi Lancer (nuo 1992 m.)    4 x 100
Mitsubishi Carisma 1.6    4x100
Mitsubishi Colt/Lancer    4x100
Mitsubishi Carisma, Colt 92>, Lancer 92>    4 x 100
Nissan 100NX    4 x 100
Nissan Almera    4 x 100
Nissan Micra    4 x 100
Nissan Pulsar    4 x 100
Nissan Sentra    4 x 100
Nissan Sunny    4 x 100
Nissan 100 NX    4x100
Nissan Almera    4x100
Nissan Micra    4x100
Nissan Sunny    4x100
Nissan 100NX, Almera, Micra, Sunny    4 x 100
Opel Ascona    4 x 100
Opel Astra    4 x 100
Opel Calibra    4 x 100
Opel Combo    4 x 100
Opel Corsa    4 x 100
Opel Kadett    4 x 100
Opel Tigra    4 x 100
Opel Vectra    4 x 100
Opel Zafira    4 x 100
Proton All    4 x 100
Renault 9, 11, 19    4 x 100
Renault 21    4 x 100
Renault 25    4 x 100
Renault Alpine    4 x 100
Renault Bellevue    4 x 100
Renault Champion    4 x 100
Renault Clio    4 x 100
Renault Elysee    4 x 100
Renault Espace    4 x 100
Renault Fuego    4 x 100
Renault Kangoo    4 x 100
Renault Laguna    4 x 100
Renault Megane    4 x 100
Renault Rapid    4 x 100
Renault Safrane    4 x 100
Renault Scenic    4 x 100
Renault Spider    4 x 100
Renault Twingo    4 x 100
Renault Avantime    4x100
Renault Clio 1 1.2 to 1.8    4x100
Renault Clio 1 16S & Williams    4x100
Renault Clio 2 1.2 to 1.8    4x100
Renault Clio 2 16V & 2.0 RS    4x100
Renault Kangoo    4x100
Renault Laguna 4 Stud    4x100
Renault Megane    4x100
Renault Megane & Coupe    4x100
Renault R21 4 Stud    4x100
Renault Safrane / Espace 4 Stud    4x100
Renault Scenic    4x100
Renault Super 5 1.2 1.4    4x100
Renault Super 5 GT Turbo    4x100
Renault Clio, Megane, Laguna, R19, R21, Espace    4 x 100
Rover 200    4 x 100
Rover 400    4 x 100
Rover 25    4 x 100
Rover 45    4 x 100
Rover Concerto    4 x 100
Rover 200 / 400    4x100
Rover 25 / 45    4x100
Rover Steetwise    4x100
Seat Arosa    4 x 100
Seat Cordoba    4 x 100
Seat Ibiza (nuo 1993 m.)    4 x 100
Seat Inca    4 x 100
Seat Toledo    4 x 100
Seat Arosa    4x100
Seat Ibizia / Cordoba    4x100
Seat Toledo    4x100
Å koda Favorit    4 x 100
Å koda Felicia    4 x 100
Å koda Forman    4 x 100
Å koda Pick-up    4 x 100
Å koda Felicia    4x100
Subaru Justy (iki 1995 m.)    4 x 100
Subaru Libero    4 x 100
Subaru Vivio    4 x 100
Suzuki Baleno    4 x 100
Toyota Corolla    4 x 100
Toyota MR2 (iki 1991 m.)    4 x 100
Toyota Paseo    4 x 100
Toyota Starlet    4 x 100
Toyota Yaris    4 x 100
Toyota Corolla    4x100
Toyota Corolla Verso    4x100
Toyota Corolla / Peaseo    4x100
Toyota MR2 W20    4x100
Toyota Prius    4x100
Toyota Starlet    4x100
Toyota Yaris / Yaris    4x100
Vauxhall Agila    4 x 100
Vauxhall Astra Mk 2    4 x 100
Vauxhall Astra Mk 3    4 x 100
Vauxhall Calibra    4 x 100
Vauxhall Cavalier    4 x 100
Vauxhall Corsa    4 x 100
Vauxhall Nova    4 x 100
Vauxhall Vectra    4 x 100
Vauxhall Astra/Kadet    4x100
Vauxhall Astra 4 Stud    4x100
Vauxhall Calibra/Vectra 4 Sd    4x100
Vauxhall Corsa    4x100
Vauxhall Corsa Van/Combo    4x100
Vauxhall Mervia    4x100
Vauxhall Nova    4x100
Vauxhall Tigra    4x100
Volkswagen Caddy    4 x 100
Volkswagen Corrado    4 x 100
Volkswagen Derby    4 x 100
Volkswagen Golf    4 x 100
Volkswagen Jetta    4 x 100
Volkswagen Lupo    4 x 100
Volkswagen Passat (iki 1996 m.)    4 x 100
Volkswagen Polo    4 x 100
Volkswagen Santana    4 x 100
Volkswagen Scirocco    4 x 100
Volkswagen Vento    4 x 100
Volkswagen Corrado 4 Stud    4x100
Volkswagen Golf I / Cabrio    4x100
Volkswagen Golf II & III / Ventro    4x100
Volkswagen Lupo    4x100
Volkswagen Passat 4 Stud    4x100
Volkswagen Polo    4x100
Volvo 340, 360    4 x 100
Volvo 440, 460    4 x 100
Volvo 480    4 x 100
Volvo 440 / 460 / 480    4x100

[Pine]

Before buying your Jazz Hybrid did anyone test drive the Toyota Auris? I would appreciate your comments.

[guest3300]

A friend of ours has an Auris Hybrid which, although I haven't driven it myself, I've been front seat passenger in on a few occasions.
To be honest the experience almost put me completely off Hybrids. My friend's been getting the mid 50s mpg and the transmission noise, especially when pushed a bit, was quite off-putting. It also seemed rather err,,,Clunky.
As we were in the market for a new car I'd looked up all the bumf on Hybrids, including the Jazz but still wasn't convinced that the extra cost was justified.
We'd just about decided on a Jazz EX when we visited the Honda dealer but he had a Hybrid demonstrator which, almost as an afterthought, I was persuaded to take for a run.
To try and compare it to my experience in the Auris is close to likening chalk to cheese.
We ordered the Jazz Hybrid HS there and then, it arrived a week or so later and we haven't been disappointed in any way with our purchase....It's amazing.

It's also very wife and dog friendly.

Oh yes, I've now got a very jealous Auris owning friend. Well, you gotta show off a bit don't cha?

[culzean]

Haven't driven Auris or Honda Jazz Hybrid - but I must say that IMHO the Honda hybrids (and especially CRZ - which looks as though its moving even when standing still) have far nicer styling than the Toyota ones.

[Ozzie]

I did consider an Auris, but its around £22k which gives driving instructiors insurance prioblems, as insurance companies don't like us having tuition cars worth over £20k. Also I didn't think the extra £5000 was justified, although I didn't even drive it.

Ozzie 

[guest3331]

Haven't driven the Jazz Hybrid, or Auris but did compare driving  the Insight with Prius Mk2 and Mk3 so same drive trains. 

My interest in the Auris Hybrid ended when I opened the boot in the Toyota showroom, thought "seriously?" and closed it again.  The Auris Hybrid would be very impractical as a family car due to the tiny boot (which is mostly invaded by the batteries).  It loses over 100 litres of boot space compared to the standard Auris.  The new Yaris Hybrid has a bigger boot than the Auris.

I kind of liked the two Toyota Priuses (Prii?), in a high quality appliance kind of way.  They seemed to make a lot of sense.  Thing was, I actually enjoyed driving the Insight, something that I can't say about the Toyotas.

Driving enjoyment on the Insight has the life sucked out of it by Econ mode and I assume the Jazz in the same.  Just press that inviting green button and the car is instantly transformed into a rubber-band powered dull-mobile (I suspect that's one reason why there were one or two overwhelmingly negative Insight reviews).  On any journey that doesn't make extensive use of autostop, I get better fuel economy in Normal mode anyway.  I own an Insight now but I think if I'd driven it first in Econ mode the impression would have been so bad that I might have just kept looking elsewhere.

Have driven the Jazz CVT (non hybrid), which was a very similar (if slower) experience to the Insight.  I prefer the Jazz for comfort and the Insight for handling.

[Ozzie]

Haven't driven the Jazz Hybrid . . . . . . Driving enjoyment on the Insight has the life sucked out of it by Econ mode and I assume the Jazz in the same.  Just press that inviting green button and the car is instantly transformed into a rubber-band powered dull-mobile.

Have driven the Jazz CVT (non hybrid), which was a very similar (if slower) experience to the Insight.  I prefer the Jazz for comfort and the Insight for handling.

I was nano-seconds from buying a Golf, playing one dealer off against another to decide which was the better one to buy, a 2 year old one with 5k on the clock, or a year old with 15k on the clock. Then VW revealed the service costs 

So then I visited Honda looking at the Civics, that was too impractical, lets look at the Jazz then prior to the Seat Leon test drive booked for 2 hours time. Never made it to Seat . . . . test drove standard Jazz, "Hmm OK", followed by the Hybrid, with a bit more go and a few more shiny bits, and ordered one there and then. The two Jazz cars are chalk and cheese, and even with learners driving we don't hang around at traffic lights, 0-40 is great, although after 40 progress slows, maybe I should turn the Eco off 

Ozzie

[Pine]

I have read that using the Eco mode does not result in much better economy for most drivers as they tend to compensate for the duller performance my giving it more throttle.

[guest3331]

I read an interview with one of the design team that worked on the Insight regarding Econ mode. 

They were saying that Econ mode made a significant improvement to the fuel economy of inefficient drivers (mainly through having a higher regenerative braking and assist affinity) in urban traffic.  For those that were already driving efficiently (generally anticipating better and using brakes less) there was little to no improvement in using econ mode.