... For me it stunts the power and the aircon too much. Also fuel economy was worse.
So no I definitely don't use it.
Sorry but I think drivers who always use econ mode have got used to a lower standard of throttle response and regard it as adequate and normal for the car. Whether its adequate is a personal choice. But it can be better.
Sorry but I think drivers who always use econ mode have got used to a lower standard of throttle response and regard it as adequate and normal for the car. Whether its adequate is a personal choice. But it can be better.
I always use econ mode and and indeed: I regard the throttle response as adequate and normal for the car. And as for acceleration on a (short) slip road or fast overtaking maneuver: pedal to the metal and you are really exactly the same fast as the Jazz next to you without econ.
Parking in full sun on a hot day? No problem: before starting open all the windows or (even more effective) if possible doors and tailgate for a few minutes. Our aircon always managed (in our climate) to achieve a comfortable temperature. I don't know how that will be in the future with global warming...
I cant comment on the effectiveness of aircon in econ mode
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Parking in full sun on a hot day? No problem: before starting open all the windows or (even more effective) if possible doors and tailgate for a few minutes. Our aircon always managed (in our climate) to achieve a comfortable temperature. I don't know how that will be in the future with global warming...
Totally agree!
Every single word.
Couldn’t get above 54 mpg with ECON on so I switched it off and it’s gone up slowly. Seems ECON is useless.
Not a technical explanation but when I am delicately using the throttle manually the car feels more responsive and operating at its optimum efficiency. And therefore uses the smallest possible amount of fuel at that moment . The suppressed throttle control in Econ mode may be less precise and less efficient.
I'm very curious about the logic of this. Anyone who has a technical explanation for higher consumption when less energy is used for the climate system and the response to the accelerator pedal is reduced?
Regarding the throttle, I was on a motorway joining slip road, saw a gap to accelerate into, pressed the throttle, nothing. Turned off Econ, got throttle response back and was able to easily accelerate into the gap.
Econ, nope, not for me.
Your next mission, should you decide to accept it, is to climb into a hot car, say 40C to 50C+ Econ on, windows shut, and with a temp set to 21ish.
Your next mission, should you decide to accept it, is to climb into a hot car, say 40C to 50C+ Econ on, windows shut, and with a temp set to 21ish.
Who would do that? And why?
When it is really hot, above 30°C (like now here) I switch off Econ and then the air conditioning does indeed work more effectively.
Pardon my barging in. As a future Jazz owner I find this discussion very interesting!I think it has to do with compensation; both normal and econ make the car behave in a certain way. When you notice it and don’t like it, you will automatically compensate. E.g. setting the temp to another value or pressing the throttle more. This might work opposite.
What I fail to understand is how exactly the more efficient air conditioning in normal mode should correlate to better fuel efficency ???
If I have learned anything yet it is that nothing comes from nothing.
Pardon my barging in. As a future Jazz owner I find this discussion very interesting!It doesnt.
What I fail to understand is how exactly the more efficient air conditioning in normal mode should correlate to better fuel efficency ???
If I have learned anything yet it is that nothing comes from nothing.
I think it has to do with compensation; both normal and econ make the car behave in a certain way. When you notice it and don’t like it, you will automatically compensate. E.g. setting the temp to another value or pressing the throttle more. This might work opposite.That makes a lot of sense to me! - Ultimately the driver can annihilate all technological benefits by driving unreasonably.
In both settings you as a driver will ultimately make the car run economic. So choose what fits best to your needs.