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Pegasakidis

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2021, 12:14:35 AM »
and yes!!!!!! installing cruise control IS possible!
i just installed with some wiring late night and i can confirm that is working like sweet!!

what i bought

*steering wheel with cc buttons
*clutch switch b as the manual describes it
*brake switch with 4 contacts
* new steering spiral clock spring wiring from eBay for less than 15 euros

mods that needed
3 wires from the steering spiral clock to the instrument dashboard
2 wires from the pedal switches to the ECU

the pins that i used came from an old pc from my basement!

and of course, no activation was needed to the ECU

that's all!!!! feel free to ask everything!!!

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« Last Edit: September 13, 2021, 12:16:21 AM by Pegasakidis »

ianhj

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2021, 08:25:51 PM »
Well done!!

I've been thinking about possibly doing this for sometime but haven't found anyone who has been successful.

With the help of the pin connections  described in TG's post on Page 1, I think I can work out the extra two wires for the brake switch and the clutch switch. Still a little bit unsure about the three wires to the instrument connector from the steering spiral clock. Also why is a new one required - could you not use the existing one?

Any extra advice or tips would be gratefully received. Do you have a link to eBay for the steering spiral clock wiring?

Many thanks

Ian

Pegasakidis

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2021, 08:49:52 PM »
about the 3 wires to the instrument, go for it without fear....just, measure 3, act 1

new clock spring it's a must since some pins_wires are missing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/77900TA0H12-Spiral-Clock-Spring-For-Honda-Accord-2008-12-Jazz-2009-12-/274876233775?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

have in mind that although it is compatible as it is described, the yellow sockets for the airbag, are a little difficult to connect them....but there is always a way to do it
« Last Edit: September 19, 2021, 08:54:20 PM by Pegasakidis »

ianhj

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2021, 10:03:23 PM »
Thanks for the reply.

Re the clock spring I now understand.

Many thanks


« Last Edit: September 21, 2021, 12:28:09 PM by ianhj »

oitar

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2022, 07:23:16 AM »
Hi all, sorry to resurrect an old thread. I am going to try and enable the CC on my 2013 Jazz CVT with stock audio controls on the steering wheel.
Looks like the pinout might be different, compared to the previous post.
If somebody already did this, can you please specify where is the best place/s to attach the extra wires coming from the new CC buttons, and extra Brake switch contacts? Where are the PCM and GCM modules situated.
If anyone is interested, I will post regular updates on the progress.

ianhj

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2022, 08:27:39 PM »
I never went ahead and did this. Struggled to find a good condition second hand steering wheel as our car doesn't have the cruise control buttons built in.

I did though find this wiring diagram (well one page of it). May be of some use.

Hope you are able to get it sorted.

https://portal-diagnostov.com/en/2020/04/07/cruise-control-honda-fit-2012-system-wiring-diagrams/

Lord Voltermore

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2022, 10:02:21 AM »
As someone who has adaptive cruise control its maybe not my place to point out negatives. But I will  :P

20 years ago I had  a car with basic CC.  I was not able to use it as often as I expected.  Its best suited to long stretches of straight road with little other traffic.  Not always easy to find in some locations.

The advantages of maintaining  a constant speed  without having to press a pedal can become a a liability if the car ploughs on at the same speed regardless  of other vehicles.     Adaptive cruise control is much better in this respect, detecting other vehicles  and adapting speeds to suit  , but even ACC  has its limitations in moderate to heavy traffic. You still have to supervise that is reacting correctly to the movements of other vehicles and  the heavier the traffic the more often you have to intervene. There comes a point where its less work and safer to switch it off.   With CC it can be  more a case of  finding those times when it can safely be switched on.     

Unless you have had CC on a previous car  and really miss it , or really enjoy  carrying out such modifications and have the skill to overcome any problems  ,  or know for sure you will  regularly drive  long distances on quiet roads   I'd think twice about doing it. 

If you win the rat race you are still a rat. These days I would rather eat cheese and wait for them with baited breath.
(inspired by W.C. Fields.   -For me any field  is now a potential WC Field.

GBH

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2022, 11:08:11 AM »
Previously considered retrofitting CC to our VW Mk4 Golf (which I have been told is almost a plug & play affair) but never got around to it.

Used the car for a 200 mile round trip two weeks ago, mainly M3, and realised that because of the volume of traffic combined with the many variable speed limits  at that time of day (Saturday morning down & back up at lunchtime) that basic CC would have been more trouble than it was worth for that journey.

Alternatively, one of my sons has just bought an all-singing-all-dancing Volvo V90 with adaptive CC combined with collision avoidance sensors and lane following steering which he used to travel down to the coast overnight. Because of the light traffic he said he could almost recline the seat and relax like a meerkat and let the car do the driving! All that was needed was to gently rest one hand on the steering wheel without the need for any input regarding steering direction.

Westy36

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2022, 02:23:10 PM »
I'd like cruise control. Very useful and one of the standard fit items I look forward to when I upgrade to a MK3 at some point in the future.

Never used active cruise control, don't think I would like it tbh.

I agree with Lordv, cruise is for empty straight roads. Back when I was doing 50k a year in my company cars, cruise was a god send. These days, at around 15k and not many long journeys, I don't really miss it. Be nice to have though.

oitar

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2022, 06:14:22 PM »
Thanks for all the replies! @ianhj your CC diagram is much nicer than what I have!
I agree non-adaptive CC could be more of a burden, but I like enabling features that are "almost there" ;D
And I had to remove the steering wheel anyway- to put a new skin(surface was wearing out. Rather pleased with the new look now btw). Alas the clock spring needs to be changed, so waiting on Aliexpress for next few months. Ask anything, will update you once something happens.

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Re: Retrofit OEM cruise control
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2022, 11:14:12 PM »
I tried to do this on my civic some years ago, got the cruise control light on the dash to show but that was it.   Turns out had a load of wiring missing from the clutch / brake pedal and also didnít have the control programmed into my ECU so no goÖ kept the steering wheel though as it looked nicer


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