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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2022, 12:51:40 PM »
My version 2.09
That's not the Map version, that's the Navigation app version, that rarely changes.

You need to look in Settings > Map and Vehicle > myMaps for the map version.

Couple of screen dumps
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2022, 02:04:45 PM »
2022.10 is the latest for Europe and was available about a year ago, December I think, so maybe .......

Update : Came in December 2nd 2021 :

https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=14100.msg112512#msg112512
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2022, 05:23:20 PM »
Can someone with a new car in last few months enter my postcode TN21 0GA (thatís zero not O) into their Sat Nav to see if it works?. Can we find out what version on the Garmin?.

latest 2023 maps just installed on the car and standalone Garmin.

TN21 0GA without a house number just gives A267 and choices of Cross in Hand , Heathfield , Horam or Little London

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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2022, 08:58:26 PM »
Can someone with a new car in last few months enter my postcode TN21 0GA (thatís zero not O) into their Sat Nav to see if it works?. Can we find out what version on the Garmin?.

latest 2023 maps just installed on the car and standalone Garmin.

TN21 0GA without a house number just gives A267 and choices of Cross in Hand , Heathfield , Horam or Little London

Thank you. Looks like Garmin not got our development of four streets on their maps. My postcode should pick up Autumn Drive, Horam. The A267 main road outside the development. As I said I used Setting Home Location so on the photo I am 1 Home in a field off the A267, 2 is a nearby main road. As you can see no streets.
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2022, 09:54:06 PM »
My TomTom Go doesn't find the postcode or Autumn Drive - and it was updated yesterday.

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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2022, 10:15:45 PM »
Doing some research and I have discovered that Sat Nav maps are supplied by either TomTom maps or Nokia (previously Navteq). Nokia supplies Garmin with its maps. If a new road opens the day after a survey it can be 12 to 18 months before that area is surveyed again. TomTom seemingly has only 22 survey cars, worldwide as of June this year. They use data fed back from devices using their maps to correct their maps.

https://www.alphr.com/features/375415/how-satnav-maps-are-made/

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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2022, 10:39:21 PM »
In such a case, isn't it easier to look up the address on google maps and enter the coordinates in the navigation?
I know it's a "detour", but in the case of new addresses it works.
Last August our navigation didn't know my daughter's new address (yet). On Google Maps I found it easily, (with their cars in the driveway :D). Coordinates entered and the navigation brought us neatly to the door!

And as for Autumn Drive, Horam, check it out here.

https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Autumn+Dr,+Horam,+Heathfield,+Verenigd+Koninkrijk/@50.9292965,0.2384536,117m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47df692cc6a8b71d:0x4a1b15e8208dc22d!8m2!3d50.9289939!4d0.2390195?hl=nl

Right-click the house on the map... eureka! Coordinates appear!
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/18539?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2022, 10:48:06 PM »
In such a case, isn't it easier to look up the address on google maps and enter the coordinates in the navigation?
I know it's a "detour", but in the case of new addresses it works.
Last August our navigation didn't know my daughter's new address (yet). On Google Maps I found it easily, (with their cars in the driveway :D). Coordinates entered and the navigation brought us neatly to the door!

And as for Autumn Drive, Horam, check it out here.

https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Autumn+Dr,+Horam,+Heathfield,+Verenigd+Koninkrijk/@50.9292965,0.2384536,117m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47df692cc6a8b71d:0x4a1b15e8208dc22d!8m2!3d50.9289939!4d0.2390195?hl=nl

A mouse click on the intended house and... eureka! Coordinates appear!

If you read what I said at the very beginning with the photo. On my sat nav I have set Use Current Location to set home location so my location is Home 1. There are coordinates shown

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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2022, 04:50:53 AM »
Both Garmin and TT have always been very late in adding urban new developments. I still suspect they don't get the info from the various agencies as frequently as they make out.

They can also get it wrong the other way round. The Hindhead tunnel appeared on some SatNavs before it was opened.

I did submit a new housing development in Great Malvern to Garmin, back in the 90's, and they did have it mapped 2 updates later.
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2022, 06:28:35 AM »
Delivery drivers may not find you. The taxman always will.  Unless you are rich enough.
If you win the rat race you are still a rat. These days I would rather eat cheese and wait for them with baited breath.
(inspired by W.C. Fields.   -For me any field  is now a potential WC Field.

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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2022, 12:53:30 PM »
Garmin DS61 also shows A267 with the destination in open space.

Put in a house number and it backtracks to 4 known 'TN21 0'  that have house numbers.

Horam
Little London
Heathfield
Cross in Hand

Map version 2023.10

Same as Pebbles above
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2022, 04:19:15 PM »
Little London Road is on A267 road that links Horam up with Cross in Hand and Heathfield. I have logged query with Garmin but donít expect decent reply.


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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2022, 04:29:11 PM »
.... or use Android Auto Google Maps ?

I haven't used the built in Garmin since I found out it had no traffic, just days after delivery.
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2022, 04:41:36 PM »
I understand that it's a bad idea to have a 'Home' location set on your Satnav. This is because if someone steals the car while you are away from home they know that you are not there so they or their mates can safely burgle you. I have home set but named it something unrelated.
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Re: Sat Nav out of date
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2022, 05:12:13 PM »
The best address to put in your Home address is the local Police Station!

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