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Title: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on November 13, 2020, 09:13:40 AM
Well this function actualy exis in infotainmentt of our Jazz on models that officialy have apple carplay wireless and android auto usb, android auto wireless simple disabled in engineering menu.

Find how to get to this menu and activated this function !!!
Please if you do it in you car remember if you change something else in this menu its your responsibiliy if this lead to any fault of car infotainment !!!

To get in engineering menu switch car to ACC mode by pressing Engine start button
After  car infotainment up press and hold at the same time buttons Home + Volume knob + <<--

(https://i.ibb.co/PDXHPrg/received-791887508057641.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

You will get to this screen

(https://i.ibb.co/fdY0DQp/received-3687281307989103.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whN6cYW)

Press on Detailed information and settings, then you will see this screen

(https://i.ibb.co/7W573w6/received-3623778867681582.jpg) (https://ibb.co/85pFyWS)

Press on Smartphone information, this screen will apear

(https://i.ibb.co/VxkqtF8/received-350914529344355.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nBKLbXS)

From here press on android auto tab

(https://i.ibb.co/x55x9B4/received-972796819878097.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bddcwCf)

And press on upper option - On (USB/Wireless) by default this set to On (USB)

(https://i.ibb.co/YXsfZ8x/received-2753939828212061.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tzrYXc9)

After selecting On (USB/Wireless) press orange Return button in upper right corner of screen several times to exit from engineering menu.

If you android smartphone not listed as android auto wireless compatible open from smartphone Android Auto app, press menu button (left upper corner), press on settings, scroll down and tap 10 times on Version of the app
This will unlock for you Developer options
press on three vertical dots
press on Developer optionsn
then select  - add wireless function
Go back to get to settings menu scroll down and tick toggle of Wireless translation to ON
After doing that if you already used you smartphone with android auto wired (USB) in your car, delete your smartphone in infotainmentt settings, unpair bluetooth of your car on smartphone, and pair smartphone again
by going in car infotainmentt  -> settings -> Smartphone connection -> Android Auto, Add new smartphone then connect you smartphone with usb cable (use original/good quality cable) and follow on screen instructions
Done

(https://i.ibb.co/BZGspVz/android-auto-wireless.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0MKJ7jD)

If for some reasone You get message
device not supported
Press on System status on top of infotainment screen

(https://i.ibb.co/ck1g6gW/20201112-001233-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zQrnXn3)

You will see your smartphone connected to bluetooth
Press on (your smartphone name) >
Then select Android Auto checkbox and then Apply button
If after this still not connected go to settings -> Smartphone Connection -> select Android auto
Tap on your smartphone and tap on green button connect
When you smartphone connected to Android Auto wireless  you should see wireless simbol in white square in system status

(https://i.ibb.co/Lg8zyTs/20201112-001300-HDR.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SmPXgkZ)
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: cjp2k20 on November 14, 2020, 09:09:35 AM
Thanks for this, I can confirm it works. With my partner's Pixel 5 (Android 11) it seems to work fine so far and reconnects after starting the car again, but for my S20+ (Android 10), it worked first time around after enabling it on the phone, but afterwards I needed to press the connect button due to the device not supported message.

My phone is due Android 11 soon so it might work better then.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on November 14, 2020, 11:52:56 AM
That strange
If it has Android 10 you not need to install Android Auto, only Android Auto for phone screen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead.phonescreen&hl=en_US&gl=US (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead.phonescreen&hl=en_US&gl=US)
to change  settings if you need.
Should not by any problems with S20,  my LG v40 ThinQ doing that - phone not supported then wigling with infotainmentt settings and it`s connected again.

According to android auto support page
https://support.google.com/androidauto/answer/6348019?hl=en
Android Auto on your car display (wireless)
A car or aftermarket receiver that’s compatible with wireless Android Auto
Find out if your car or receiver is compatible with Android Auto (wireless).
A compatible Android smartphone with an active data plan and the latest version of the Android Auto app:
Any smartphone with Android 11.0 and 5GHz Wi-Fi. In the EU, smartphones must comply with additional regulatory requirements in order to use 5GHz Wi-Fi in the car.
A Google or Samsung smartphone with Android 10.0.
A Samsung Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, or Note 8, with Android 9.0.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 11, 2020, 07:53:48 AM
Didn't worked with my Samsung S9+ unfortunately, still getting "device not supported" message
(and yes, I've enabled AA wireless in app developer options)
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on December 14, 2020, 08:26:37 AM
Didn't worked with my Samsung S9+ unfortunately, still getting "device not supported" message
(and yes, I've enabled AA wireless in app developer options)

Do you tried then go to setting ->smartphone connection->Android auto->select your phone name
you should see below you phone green button connect push this button
I found that phone connecting fast if you allow 1-2 minutes after powering car, then connect your phone this way
Also found that at least my LG v40 connects fast (but manualy) if placed on wireless charging pad (aftermarket one that support fast 10w charge) but sometimes phone connecting without help , may by because disconect and connect within hour...
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on December 14, 2020, 08:43:41 AM
Oh forgot something, sorry
In some cases there may by problems with disconnecting from Android auto wifi spot, if this heppens check wifi setting, there must by check box or switch - connect to wifi without internet connection / Switch to mobile data if internet throught wifi not available.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 14, 2020, 10:35:13 AM
Do you tried then go to setting ->smartphone connection->Android auto->select your phone name
you should see below you phone green button connect push this button
There were no "Android Auto" item in that screen for me (as in the last screenshot of first post the thread) and didn't use my car since.
I've applied all steps carefully.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on December 14, 2020, 01:47:24 PM
Do you tried then go to setting ->smartphone connection->Android auto->select your phone name
you should see below you phone green button connect push this button
There were no "Android Auro" item in that screen for me (as in the last screenshot of first post the thread) and didn't use my car since.
I've applied all steps carefully.
You will not see that screen until your phone will be connected to AA
Check that you phone already connected to car bluetooth and if you under your home and connected to your home wifi disconnect wifi from you home network, allow to multimedia at last 1 minute to work before connecting smartphone to AA, connect phone to AA manualy ,
don`t be confused by not supported message.
In step with green button "Connect" if you see that button but it not green wait and try again.
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Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 14, 2020, 02:24:00 PM
You will not see that screen until your phone will be connected to AA
Check that you phone already connected to car bluetooth and if you under your home and connected to your home wifi disconnect wifi from you home network, allow to multimedia at last 1 minute to work before connecting smartphone to AA, connect phone to AA manualy ,
don`t be confused by not supported message.
In step with green button "Connect" if you see that button but it not green wait and try again.

Thanks, I'll try again these steps the next time I use my car (which is currently in the garage, with no data coverage, and I'm not using it a lot because of COVID lockdown) and keep you informed
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 20, 2020, 12:13:52 PM
you should see below you phone green button connect push this button
I've been able to test it longer this morning
Problem is that I've managed to get a AA Wireless connection only *once*.
When it has worked, it did without issue and with a stable connection.
Most of the time, pressing the "connect"  button make it greyed then either nothing happens either I'm getting the device not supported message (and Android Auto UI don't show up on the car screen)
Even tried to unpair/repair my phone without success.

Possible that my phone (Galaxy 29, Android 10) is a bit outdated. I think I will stick with USB connexion and wait, in few month, when my company will allow me to renew my phone.

Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 26, 2020, 08:31:11 AM
I've managed to get a AA Wireless connection only *once*.
I've been able to test it again yesterday (I don't use my car a lot these days so I'm unable to perform many testing)
Worked fine the morning.
On the return trip I had to insist several times on the "connect" button (getting "incompatible device" errors) and it finally worked too.
Anyway, as soon as the connection is established everything seem to work fine.
Too bad it doesn't work more reliably each time.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Zaier on December 27, 2020, 09:19:10 AM
After enabling the "WiFi projection" (sorry but I don't know the exact translation to English), in the developer option of Android Auto, it is working also for me.
It takes roughly 20-30 seconds to have it running after the car has been startup, but then it works fine.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: ndavey1 on December 27, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
This is one of the reasons I switched from Android to Apple. Android features are always playing catch-up with Apple and they are never as refined. In other cars I experienced connectivity issues with Android (e.g. mirror screen) which when I switched to iPhone just works.

Apple car play is seamless on the Jazz. I pair and connect once initially, then every time I start the car my music is there along with Apple maps. No connection issues, no need to manually connect. Like other Apple technologies (Apple Watch, AirPods) it just works!
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on December 29, 2020, 12:44:21 PM
After enabling the "WiFi projection" (sorry but I don't know the exact translation to English), in the developer option of Android Auto, it is working also for me.
the exact translation is "show wireless projection option" (link (https://www.xda-developers.com/wireless-android-auto-any-android-phone))

OP has referred to this as "add wireless function":

If you android smartphone not listed as android auto wireless compatible open from smartphone Android Auto app, press menu button (left upper corner), press on settings, scroll down and tap 10 times on Version of the app
This will unlock for you Developer options
press on three vertical dots
press on Developer optionsn
then select  - add wireless function
but it's the same thing.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Zaier on February 12, 2021, 10:50:11 PM
Android 11 has arrived, and together with it AA wireless without any developer options selected in the app.
It takes roughly 30 seconds to connect, and the phone must be unlocked first, but it's working very well at the moment.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: alfaomega on March 01, 2021, 01:42:19 PM
Thanks, this tutorial is very useful.
I've tried and it works with Android 10, yesterday i've upgraded to v11 so i need to double check but expect nothing but going flawless as before ;-)
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: silesia on May 01, 2021, 03:09:18 PM
Big thanks for the manual, finally have working android auto in my car
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Mj0528 on May 20, 2021, 11:13:45 AM
Excellent advice and worked, really pleased to be wireless :)
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on August 12, 2021, 06:16:49 AM
After reading the manual I was not impressed that you can't connect a phone via USB to have Android Auto - and - play music from a USB stick.

Wireless AA will solve this.

Thanks
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on August 12, 2021, 06:44:26 AM
Little update for flawless start of wireless AA.
When you start you car your phone wifi and bluetooth should be disabled, after the infotainment start enter setting to start AA, select your phone, press green button then immediately start Bluetooth and wifi in your phone, and AA will start without problems.
As i found at least with my phone when wifi and bluetooth enabled when infotainment starts the phone get connection with bluetooth and wifi itself, and if this happens AA unable to start as wifi already connected.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CoolRaoul on August 12, 2021, 07:20:59 AM
When you start you car your phone wifi and bluetooth should be disabled, after the infotainment start enter setting to start AA, select your phone, press green button then immediately start Bluetooth and wifi in your phone, and AA will start without problems.
As i found at least with my phone when wifi and bluetooth enabled when infotainment starts the phone get connection with bluetooth and wifi itself, and if this happens AA unable to start as wifi already connected.
I'm not sure I'm ready to execute that sequence every time.

Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on August 12, 2021, 08:07:34 AM
Maybe that only i have to do connection this way  ;D, i not have access to all android phones, i have only LG v40 thinQ.

If someone  others can get connection to AA without this sequence  that good.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on August 12, 2021, 08:09:48 AM
I was thinking that.

Shame as I'd ideally like to play a USB stick and have Android Auto.

I have a phone speed camera app that uses bluetooth to play alerts through the car system and performs a pseudo phone call so playing music over BT might upset that.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: nowster on August 12, 2021, 04:02:58 PM
Having AA Wireless work is very hit-and-miss for me at the moment, and that's with a Google Nexus 3a phone.

Sometimes it activates when I've got the phone in my pocket, sometimes it needs manual intervention to wake up the phone, sometimes it never works and I have to plug in to USB.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Hicardo on August 13, 2021, 09:05:06 PM
I cant be bothered with all that set up for wireless - AA works fine and reliably for me when connected via usb, and its no major inconvenience in my view
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on August 14, 2021, 05:06:32 AM
I am right in thinking that you can't play a USB music stick and have a phone plugged in for AA though ?
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: nowster on August 14, 2021, 06:44:39 PM
I am right in thinking that you can't play a USB music stick and have a phone plugged in for AA though ?
It might be possible with a USB hub, but I've never tried it.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on August 15, 2021, 04:10:45 AM
I only really wanted AA to display Garmin Navigation with traffic given that the stock headunit doesn't have traffic.

I saw an interior picture yesterday that shows the airbag A pillar is at the rear of the dash so as a last resort I may put a Garmin disc on the dash, just forward of the dash top air vent and attach my DS61 to that.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on September 14, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
Sorry
If someone else fails to connect the wireless android auto  second time after connecting the phone, I apologize for having possibly misled those who tried to connect but could not, I was connecting from the wrong side
For those who have Android version 10, you need to install Android Auto for phone screen, in the Android Auto settings, find the switch to start bluetooth when starting Android Auto, for those who have Android version 9 and below, do the same in the Android Auto application.before turning on the car, Wi-Fi and bluetooth on the phone must be turned off, after turning on the car,  you just need to open the Android Auto application and that's it.
When AA starts it enabling Bluetooth and then when needed by AA turning on WiFi.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: nowster on September 15, 2021, 10:31:20 AM
I now have a handle on the Android Auto wireless problems. If your phone can connect to an existing WiFi access point that it knows about, Android Auto wireless will fail to connect. If it's not connected to any other WiFi, it works.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on September 15, 2021, 11:09:28 AM
I found that when I starting AA from my phone when WiFi and Bluetooth disabled in phone settings , AA itself turning on Bluetooth and then WiFi after establishing Bluetooth connection with car infotainment
And that eliminates all problems with wireless AA connection.
If WiFi and Bluetooth enabled in phone settings  when you powering on  car the infotainment connecting to phone using Bluetooth then WiFi of infotainment starts and phone connects to it but AA not starting.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on September 15, 2021, 11:13:00 AM
I think this requirement to have various phone settings disabled then re-enable them sounds a faff.

As much as I'd like wireless Android I think I'll pass.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: guest9814 on September 15, 2021, 11:21:11 AM
Yes with CarPlay all working flawlessly, just connects and works, but iPhone cost too much at last for me  :)
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Jazz2021 on September 15, 2021, 04:35:39 PM
I just like the way music starts streaming from my phone when I switch the car's sound system on. I have a Google Pixel 4A 5G Android phone on an EE contract that gives me 100GB a month, so I just have Spotify streaming on my phone via Bluetooth the whole time and enjoy the music as soon as I get in the car. What I also like is that when I switch the car infotainment system off and turn the car off, the music streaming on my phone pauses until I am back in the car. Then when I switch the car's systems on again the music resumes. Neat.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on February 08, 2024, 08:37:41 AM
"Roman" has disappeared and is now a "Guest" !

Took me a while to find this thread
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: shufty on February 08, 2024, 09:57:59 AM
I now have a handle on the Android Auto wireless problems. If your phone can connect to an existing WiFi access point that it knows about, Android Auto wireless will fail to connect. If it's not connected to any other WiFi, it works.

...I assume this has changed since this was posted as AA Wireless works just fine even though my phone can still see my home WIFI when sat on the drive.
It works flawlessly on the HR-V when it was flaky on the Jazz.
I guess Honda changed something between models if the Jazz is still having problems.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on February 08, 2024, 10:04:03 AM
It was a post on another forum about HRV Android Auto wireless that prompted me to find this thread

It seems the owner of a 2023 HRV didn't have AA wireless enabled by default
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: shufty on February 08, 2024, 10:26:17 AM
...No, I didn't either.
I assume nobody does (UK and or Europe, not sure) by design from Honda I guess.

It's doubtful many sales people at the dealers know anything about the hidden menu you need to access to switch it on.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on February 08, 2024, 02:10:42 PM
IIRC it's a deliberate move by Honda as not all Android phones are compatible and not all countries allow Android Auto wireless for whatever reason
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: CB72 on February 08, 2024, 02:12:04 PM
I turned off Carplay in the hidden menu as suggested previously, still flaky connection for Android Auto.
Sometimes it connects out of the blue, then it connects for the next few days, then nothing. One time it connected, I drove to the shops, when I returned to the car it didn't connect. If I connect using the USB cable, after that it seems to  connect wirelessly for the next few journeys. One time it didn't connect, then I rested the phone on top of the screen and it then connected.  It didn't work the next time I tried that though. :-[
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Kremmen on February 08, 2024, 02:50:22 PM
I also found wireless to be hit and miss

I decided to give cable connect a go and in comparison it's so quick and reliable, connects in seconds, even before the start/settings nag screen has appeared

Original perceived snag was that my music on a USB stick was not possible so I moved it all onto my phone and installed Android VLC on the phone and it works just like a USB stick in every respect ..... win / win
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Zaier on February 08, 2024, 06:28:20 PM
I've disabled Android Auto Wireless from the car several months ago, due to issues like the one described above
I've switched to AAWireless dongle, it's far more reliable, sometimes it may take more time than usual to connect, but it always connects.
Title: Re: Android Auto wireless
Post by: Clamoroso86 on March 01, 2024, 01:53:17 PM
Grazie di tutto. È perfetto.
Non capisco perché honda tiene bloccato Android auto wireless...chissà perché