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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2018, 04:15:42 PM »
Well my Cooper WM SA2's are still doing a sterling job, I didn't even bother to swap them over in the spring for the 16" summer set, as I'm doing fewer car miles now, much less than 2k since the MOT in May.
Still unsure as to what to do when they wear out, but judging by the performance over the last couple of days I'll stick with a full winter set, my nextdoor neighbour was well impressed with the grip, where his Q3 Quattro failed to work at all!
The only slight issue was found clearance, as the undertray was scrapping on the snow.


Owners of 4WD vehicles often get cocky in snow,  but it is all in the tyres - I saw quite a few 4WD by us going nowhere in the snow we just had,  they didn't like it when I easily drove past them in a 'mere normal FWD car' (they didn't know I had Nokian winters fitted...
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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 05:15:54 PM »
I went on a 4WD adventure day as a stag night alternative, everyone being quite gung-ho at our coffee break until someone arrived at our summit in a Metro - general silence descended.  All he'd done was swap his wheels to proper off road type, the usual road legal tyres were in the back.
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culzean

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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 08:18:19 PM »
I went on a 4WD adventure day as a stag night alternative, everyone being quite gung-ho at our coffee break until someone arrived at our summit in a Metro - general silence descended.  All he'd done was swap his wheels to proper off road type, the usual road legal tyres were in the back.

Went on a stag 'day' a few years ago and as well as 4x4 track they had loads of stuff like clay pigeon shooting.  One of the things was a 'reverse steer' Suzuki 4x4 that had to be driven round a obstacle course but the trick was the 'victim' did not have control of throttle (the instructor worked that), only the steering wheel which worked the wrong way, I quickly sussed that if I held bottom of steering wheel I could move it in direction I wanted vehicle to go.  No Metros on 4x4 course, but it does show what a difference dedicated tyres can make.
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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 10:38:12 PM »
We had one of those days, with Honda Pilots (not the SUV but buggies), Clay Pigeon Shooting, and a reverse steering Series III Land Rover. After setting a time round the course you then had to do it blindfold, with the rest of your team giving the directions. Brilliant fun.


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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2018, 09:14:18 AM »
I read with interest TG's recount on 4x4 driving and the Metro. Sorry to repeat it but it is applicable. I had 2 Metros issued to my beat.  The first was a 1.0 litre and the second a 1.3. Due to the fact that my patch had more unmade roads than made I asked if anything could be done to protect the 'sump' Yes I know it was the gearbox. They fitted a Rally modification. I only got stuck once and it was my fault. I didn't allow for a passenger and got it lodged on a ridge.Another time at an accident I had to get off the road, it was very soft mud, it sank up to the floor and still came out, I thought it was a magic little vehicle. People used to laugh at my 6ft winding into it but it did the job. Of course there were no winter tyres fitted then.
On a different note a colleague, just like the ones in the video, attended an accident. Sheet ice. Parked the Land Rover on the hill. Didn't think to turn the wheel against the kerb OR put it on the grass and wondered why it sailed past him down the hill. Well I put it in gear!!!!!!!!.

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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2018, 09:16:53 AM »
I read with interest TG's recount on 4x4 driving and the Metro. Sorry to repeat it but it is applicable. I had 2 Metros issued to my beat.  The first was a 1.0 litre and the second a 1.3. Due to the fact that my patch had more unmade roads than made I asked if anything could be done to protect the 'sump' Yes I know it was the gearbox. They fitted a Rally modification. I only got stuck once and it was my fault. I didn't allow for a passenger and got it lodged on a ridge.Another time at an accident I had to get off the road, it was very soft mud, it sank up to the floor and still came out, I thought it was a magic little vehicle. People used to laugh at my 6ft winding into it but it did the job. Of course there were no winter tyres fitted then.
On a different note a colleague, just like the ones in the video, attended an accident. Sheet ice. Parked the Land Rover on the hill. Didn't think to turn the wheel against the kerb OR put it on the grass and wondered why it sailed past him down the hill. Well I put it in gear!!!!!!!!.
Your metro a light car the tyres make a difference winter tyres have soft rubber compound that doesn't harden unlike normal summer tyre think of harden rubber like rubbing glass to glass

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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2018, 09:49:06 AM »
Sheet ice. Parked the Land Rover on the hill. Didn't think to turn the wheel against the kerb OR put it on the grass and wondered why it sailed past him down the hill. Well I put it in gear!!!!!!!!.
Mind you, if it was on ice then turning the wheels or putting it in gear would not make a lot of difference! Remember once waiting in line to get a run at a steep hill, and the gritter came down at about 40 mph. All wheels locked. It was sliding on black ice!

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Re: Tyres! Winter or All Season?
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 10:15:26 AM »
Sheet ice. Parked the Land Rover on the hill. Didn't think to turn the wheel against the kerb OR put it on the grass and wondered why it sailed past him down the hill. Well I put it in gear!!!!!!!!.
Mind you, if it was on ice then turning the wheels or putting it in gear would not make a lot of difference! Remember once waiting in line to get a run at a steep hill, and the gritter came down at about 40 mph. All wheels locked. It was sliding on black ice!
Similar thing happened to me driving my jazz downhill reverse gear hand brake on foot brake on still the car slid downwards miracously avoided hitting any cars.
Next day changed the tyres to winter and the car handling on snow transformed like a limpet stuck like glue on the road

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