The 1.5 Jazz

[Skyrider]

I have now had a poke around the car. It seems to ride better and is quieter than the 1.3. It is less frenetic to get it moving although I am only using running in power at the moment. A couple of things I have noticed, the vacuum pump (the Atkinson cycle doesn't produce enough to supply the brake servo) is replaced on the end of the exhaust camshaft with the high pressure fuel pump. The LED headlights are self leveling and don't have an adjuster, they have six main LEDs the four outer ones for dip beam and the two inner ones for main beam, all six are on for main beam. it uses the headlight DRLs as front sidelights. I have only seen the headlights on in a multi storey car park, seriously white and bright.

[jazzaro]

The 1.5 has shorter gear ratios, so the engine will be noisier. Also suspensions should be stiffer than the 1.3.
Italian newspapers all talk about a less confortable car compared with the 1.3.

[Skyrider]

My Jazz is a CVT so only virtual gear ratios if you choose to use them. I suspect the smoother suspension is more down to the facelift model modifications than the sport model and I would expect them to be applicable to all 2018 facelift versions. I always take journalists opinions with a huge pinch of salt when it comes to cars, I was driving before many of them were born and only a few of them are motoring specialists.

[jazzaro]

Ok, I was talking about the manual gears, yes, maybe the CVT works differently.
Concerning journalists, almost one of them commented instrumental noise data, so it's not a matter of age...
Happy to read your opinion about headlights... Finally Jazz has a decent hedalight system, even if only for higher trims.

[andruec]

I was driving before many of them were born and only a few of them are motoring specialists.

And most of them seem to be idiots.

[peteo48]

Enjoy your new car. Looking forward to further updates.

[andruec]

Yeah. It really makes me hope that the new Hybrid Jazz (1.5+electric) is eventually coming to the UK. Hopefully with a CVT rather than the DSG that Malaysia got but I'll keep an open mind on that.

Note to Honda: I'm thinking of replacing my car next year. I might forgive a lot of the glitches with the Mk3 if you have a hybrid available

[Skyrider]

Yeah. It really makes me hope that the new Hybrid Jazz (1.5+electric) is eventually coming to the UK. Hopefully with a CVT rather than the DSG that Malaysia got but I'll keep an open mind on that.

Note to Honda: I'm thinking of replacing my car next year. I might forgive a lot of the glitches with the Mk3 if you have a hybrid available

If or when the hybrid comes to the UK I would put money on it having the 1.3 engine with an electric motor. The 1.3 is meant to be in a hybrid car, that is why it is gutless at low revs, it was designed to have a motor to boost it. The 1.5 is a whole different ball game and certainly does not need a motor to boost it.

[jazzaro]

Rumors say the new Jazz Fit will come next year in Japan, and will be avaiable in Europe in 2020.
Hybrid Jazz probably will lose the dual clutch, the powertrain will be similar to the new Insight, so 1.5 atkinson and Ecvt.

[JazzandJag]

This is very much what the Brand Manager was saying when I collected my car in February this year. Only difference is that he said that it would not be available in the UK until sometime in 2021

[jazzaro]

Rumors talk about 2020 considering one year later the debut in Japan, but the actual Jazz GK came two years later, debut was in 2013 (Japan) but european sales started in september 2015. So yes, 2021 could be right...

[guest7675]

May sound silly but i was going to get an abarth 595 145 bhp mta semi automatic but now i am thinking of a honda jazz sport cvt instead i know the honda will be more reliable than a fiat though.

[andruec]

May sound silly but i was going to get an abarth 595 145 bhp mta semi automatic but now i am thinking of a honda jazz sport cvt instead i know the honda will be more reliable than a fiat though.

Several years ago I knew someone who wanted an Abarth but went with a Nissan Sunny Turbo instead for the same reasons. Manual rather than automatic but it's amazing what sticking a turbo onto an engine can do. I owned a couple of Sunnies. The 1.5 12v was a surprising goer - the last Nissan produced without a catalytic converter. Also the last one without an ECU - it had more valves and rubber tubes than you'd believe.

Then I owned an Almera. Not quite such a goer but the rear suspension was impressive. I forget the name of it but it kept the rear wheels perpendicular to the road surface on bends. Amazing grip at the rear. Only car I've owned that went through tyres at the same rate front and back.

[Skyrider]

I have noticed a rotary sensor with wiring on the bodywork operated by a short link to the nearside front lower suspension arm. There is also one on the nearside of the rear suspension. Any ideas? I don't think my 1.3 had these.

[JazzandJag]

This is most likely to be connected with the auto levelling of the LED headlights.