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Title: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 02, 2022, 09:46:40 AM
From a post back in July:
"However, I have fitted (with my insurance approval) kits that raise both seats 35mm and the driving position is a lot better."

Any information on these kits, are the Honda approved?
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: PaulC on December 04, 2022, 07:04:32 PM
Yes, I am interested in more information about this.
The current low passenger seat height makes it difficult for me to get in and out of the Jazz.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 04, 2022, 08:22:42 PM
Found these - 2 or 3cm heoght available. £52.82 for set of 4

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002105205622.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis%21GBP%21%EF%BF%A125.75%21%EF%BF%A125.75%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a24a716701846391673623e7ba6%2112000030559244486%21btf&_t=pvid:95eb6524-b8f3-46db-b4a4-224a544601f1&afTraceInfo=1005002105205622__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1670184639&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Jazzyone on December 04, 2022, 10:39:24 PM
 I would imagine that any car motability centre would be able to help you with what you wanting to do in raising the seat. Must be worth looking into.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 05, 2022, 07:59:49 AM
I would imagine that any car motability centre would be able to help you with what you wanting to do in raising the seat. Must be worth looking into.

Excellent idea, for some. those that can should evaluate this route.
I would feel as if taking advantage of motability purpose, and doubt if it would be free.

Raising the seat is required as my wife who is fully able, (as I am) finds the seat just too low for visibility. I also do not find the seat cushion we use just now very aesthetically pleasing - didn't buy car to have strap on extras that just do not litterally 'sit well' with the design.

Looking for advice now on how to remove plastic covers on the rail fixings - anyone done this?
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Kremmen on December 05, 2022, 09:50:10 AM
If they are similar to the Civic design then easy to clip on but a *** to get off.

These are the Civic ones :

(https://i.imgur.com/NFVvvtI.jpg)
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Neil Ives on December 05, 2022, 10:58:31 AM
I worry that altering seat height using non approved parts may allow an insurer to get out of paying a claim.
I'd be interested to hear what our resident Adrian Flux contact has to say about this.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: NoelM on December 05, 2022, 11:00:09 AM
https://uk.vicedeal.com/products/3cm-auto-car-driver-passenger-seat-rise-spacer-riser-heighten-block-fits-honda-acura-toyota-lexus-mazda-subaru-suzuki-japan-cars?variant=UHJvZHVjdFZhcmlhbnQ6MTgzNzQ3MjU0&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyracBhDoARIsACGFcS42g_Ay7MPmUco5tImWA8a-x3h5SGcJaVkginzphD6USDXlSivPengaApH0EALw_wcB
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 05, 2022, 01:00:09 PM
I worry that altering seat height using non approved parts may allow an insurer to get out of paying a claim.
I'd be interested to hear what our resident Adrian Flux contact has to say about this.

checked  with dealer spares dept - Honda  do not offer any means of raising seat height.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 05, 2022, 01:02:52 PM
https://uk.vicedeal.com/products/3cm-auto-car-driver-passenger-seat-rise-spacer-riser-heighten-block-fits-honda-acura-toyota-lexus-mazda-subaru-suzuki-japan-cars?variant=UHJvZHVjdFZhcmlhbnQ6MTgzNzQ3MjU0&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyracBhDoARIsACGFcS42g_Ay7MPmUco5tImWA8a-x3h5SGcJaVkginzphD6USDXlSivPengaApH0EALw_wcB

Thanks for steer, these same as above from Ali-express looking at name.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: yooser on December 05, 2022, 02:41:03 PM
Hello,
I've noticed another set of seat risers which are on sale at SR Autoshop , www.srautoshop.com.
These are not specifically for the Jazz but fit other Honda models,they have a different approach to raising the
seat, I'm trying to find out dimensions so I could make my own !
Regards Neale.
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Expatman on December 05, 2022, 02:45:24 PM
It a real pity that Honda don’t fit height adjustable passenger seats as standard. It can’t cost much as by making both left hand and right hand drive models they will have the “bits” from the drivers seat height adjuster. It just seems obtuse!!
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Lord Voltermore on December 05, 2022, 02:47:11 PM
I'm not in the UK at the moment  but when I searched the aliexpress site which aphybrid quoted  as £52.82  the site came up in German , and the price was £25.58  :o        But even  £25.58 seems expensive to me for 4 bolts and collars. . 
I dont know the exact sizes of spacer and bolts  but a quick search on fleabay  I think I could could get  suitable aluminium 'stand off' spacer collars  ,(in a choice of heights )and suitable allen screws  for about £15 from uk suppliers.   possibly even in black anodized aluminium.   

But has anyone actually done this modification on a mk4 ?  . The adverts for the kit show an illustration  indicating  its only suitable when all 4 rail mountings are on a simple  flat floor.   I cant access my car at present  but IIRC the rear two  are not on an entirely  flat floor and may be quite complex.  It might be possible  but personally I wouldnt want to spend significant cash without being sure .   And sure it wouldnt invalidate my insurance.  (or even fail the MOT when the time comes, although thats unlikely unless it looks a complete dogs dinner)
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Neil Ives on December 05, 2022, 03:28:21 PM
I worry that altering seat height using non approved parts may allow an insurer to get out of paying a claim.
I'd be interested to hear what our resident Adrian Flux contact has to say about this.

checked  with dealer spares dept - Honda  do not offer any means of raising seat height.
So, it cannot be an approved modification. Buyer beware!
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Saycol on December 05, 2022, 05:13:01 PM
It a real pity that Honda don’t fit height adjustable passenger seats as standard. It can’t cost much as by making both left hand and right hand drive models they will have the “bits” from the drivers seat height adjuster. It just seems obtuse!!
Agree entirely. Unnecessary penny pinching when the demographic that typically buys a Honda Jazz would rate seat height and associated accessibility as important. 
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 05, 2022, 07:51:14 PM
I'm not in the UK at the moment  but when I searched the aliexpress site which aphybrid quoted  as £52.82  the site came up in German , and the price was £25.58  :o        But even  £25.58 seems expensive to me for 4 bolts and collars. . 
I dont know the exact sizes of spacer and bolts  but a quick search on fleabay  I think I could could get  suitable aluminium 'stand off' spacer collars  ,(in a choice of heights )and suitable allen screws  for about £15 from uk suppliers.   possibly even in black anodized aluminium.   

But has anyone actually done this modification on a mk4 ?  . The adverts for the kit show an illustration  indicating  its only suitable when all 4 rail mountings are on a simple  flat floor.   I cant access my car at present  but IIRC the rear two  are not on an entirely  flat floor and may be quite complex.  It might be possible  but personally I wouldnt want to spend significant cash without being sure .   And sure it wouldnt invalidate my insurance.  (or even fail the MOT when the time comes, although thats unlikely unless it looks a complete dogs dinner)

The £25.58 is for two
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Jazzik on December 05, 2022, 08:17:01 PM
The £25.58 is for two
(https://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/c050.gif)For the left or right side of the seat?
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Lord Voltermore on December 05, 2022, 08:58:28 PM

The £25.58 is for two
My bad.    I missed it in German, now showing in English.  I cant blame a price difference on Brexit this time.  :-[    I have the price for 4 as  £42.64 plus £5.80 shipping. There may have been a price reduction  but its still not exactly a bargain for what you get  .Better than paying £63.49 from Vicedeal I suppose or the RRP of £ 71.69

I have looked at the SRAutoshop site. Also a ripoff price IMHO.  But interestingly they say for some cars you only get two risers.(which may well be the  case if they  did one for the Jazz/Fit.    So it seems they are happy to provide a kit that rises the front 1.5 inches near your knees, but  leaving your bum  raised by not a lot.   If they were only for the back, you'd be tipping forward in your seat.   

For now the passenger will have to remain like this
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Lord Voltermore on December 06, 2022, 07:34:41 AM
Thinking about it, paying money to "Vicedeal" might take some explaining to my wife  ,as to what kind of vice I am paying for.   ;D 

Had a quick look at my car in daylight.  Doesnt look like it would be as simple as the photos on the adverts imply. Removing plastic trim etc  ???
I cant see me ever doing the job.  But if I did even my dog could make the parts. She often makes a bolt for the door.   ;D 
 
Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: aphybrid on December 06, 2022, 11:49:39 AM
PM to the original member who had this done and stated Insurence company approved part of his timely response is as follows;

"But I would add that they insisted that the parts were made by a professional person (car converters for the disabled make them) and that they were fitted by a professional person, mine were."

Cost and Insurence compay not divulged.

Title: Re: Passenger seat height - parts info
Post by: Expatman on December 06, 2022, 03:33:31 PM
It a real pity that Honda don’t fit height adjustable passenger seats as standard. It can’t cost much as by making both left hand and right hand drive models they will have the “bits” from the drivers seat height adjuster. It just seems obtuse!!
Agree entirely. Unnecessary penny pinching when the demographic that typically buys a Honda Jazz would rate seat height and associated accessibility as important.
Why do you think they don’t include them? Surely it can’t be penny pinching, can it?