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Title: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: guest9236 on January 23, 2023, 03:51:11 PM
Have  not used Mk3 Ex  very much this year last mot mileage 14133 present mileage 15979
Total mileage 1846.
My question is should I have a service or would it be unwise to skip it
Used  once or twice a week for shopping etc
Use a solar panel all the time to. Maintain battery have never had any problems starting etc
In a quandary so any advice would be appreciated
Many thanks in advance
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: shufty on January 23, 2023, 03:54:15 PM
...Personally I'd get the service done as the time has still passed, things could still deteriorate I guess.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 23, 2023, 04:28:34 PM
I was not doing much more in the way of mileage, just under 3K. My plan was to forego the service and just change the oil. With the exception of oil everything else is mileage related. I expect to do the same with the Skoda. The dealer replaced the oil and filter (the oil was spotless when I checked) and I will just change the oil in a year's time.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: guest9236 on January 23, 2023, 04:53:28 PM
I was not doing much more in the way of mileage, just under 3K. My plan was to forego the service and just change the oil. With the exception of oil everything else is mileage related. I expect to do the same with the Skoda. The dealer replaced the oil and filter (the oil was spotless when I checked) and I will just change the oil in a year's time.

Thanks Jocko  what I also forgot to mention was the cvt fluid   Change interval this has coincided with this  service 
But the last years mileage is very much a mirror image of this years not sure what to do really.

Your  advice would be appreciated please.

Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Kremmen on January 23, 2023, 04:56:21 PM
When I had my Civic, Crown Honda Bushey used to omit certain things, discussed at the service desk, as mentioned above, some things just didn't need doing as I only do a couple of thousand a year as well.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Wilmo on January 23, 2023, 05:44:15 PM
If you skip a service try claiming on the Honda warranty if something should go wrong.

I would get a basic service done - oil & filter and a bucket of looking at.
Also if the CVT fluid is based on total mileage and you have reached it then get that done together with any mileage/age related items.

Skipping it could be false economy in the long run.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: UKjim on January 23, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
I believe you are more or at least just as likely to require oil, auto and brake fluid changes with low mileage as you are with high.


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Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 23, 2023, 08:57:37 PM
I am not advocating skipping services but if it says change spark plugs every 62,500 miles then you do it then, whether that takes 2 years or 10 years.
The only thing in the service book for my Jazz guided on time is the oil and filter (every 12 months or 6 months in severe conditions) and the coolant (every 5 years).
Everything else is on mileage; if you are not doing the miles, that could be lengthy.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Downsizer on January 24, 2023, 08:58:42 AM
I would think that a lot of short journeys starting from cold are more wearing than one long journey, so needing just as much servicing.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 24, 2023, 09:52:10 AM
I would think that a lot of short journeys starting from cold are more wearing than one long journey, so needing just as much servicing.
Then treat the oil and filter as "Severe" but plugs and other service items are treated quite gently on short journeys.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Kenneve on January 24, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
Looking through the replies to this post, I note that some members are covering less than 2k miles per year.
I have to ask, with the current costs of motoring, ie depreciation, tax, insurance and fuel, plus apparently issues with battery maintenance, would it not be cheaper to use a taxi, for those short journeys? ;D
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: shufty on January 24, 2023, 10:16:02 AM
...Do people not just go for a drive anymore?
Some seem to have more time available to just go places for fun if work isn't getting in the way, yet choose not to  :-X
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: edam on January 24, 2023, 10:36:53 AM
Looking through the replies to this post, I note that some members are covering less than 2k miles per year.
I have to ask, with the current costs of motoring, ie depreciation, tax, insurance and fuel, plus apparently issues with battery maintenance, would it not be cheaper to use a taxi, for those short journeys? ;D

In my case the reason why I have a Jazz is to load it up with fishing gear and as I have only been fishing a local water it has not had much mileage.
My car is due for a service so I too have the same decision to make. Its passed its MOT with no problems so i might just get a oil change
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: madasafish on January 24, 2023, 11:03:46 AM
We drive a 2003 Yaris which averages 1,000 miles pa.
Oil and filter change every two years since 2015. Engine still runs as new/  BUT Use synthetic rather than original spec semi synthetic

Jazz with 5k miles pa: oil and filter change every year. After 10 years, still runs as new.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 24, 2023, 11:53:18 AM
When the Jazz died we considered doing without another car but it is not really practicable. I have a quarter-mile walk to the bus stop and cannot manage half that distance. A taxi into the city would cost an arm and a leg and my wife has regular hospital appointments just off the city centre. We use the car two or three times a week for short journeys for shopping so you are talking four or six taxis a week. Occasionally I have 180 miles in a day but over the year the mileage is less than 3K. A car is just a necessary convenience. The fact you can just pick up the keys and go means a lot.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: peteo48 on January 24, 2023, 01:29:46 PM
When I bought my first Honda - a Civic (the one that looks a bit like an overgrown Jazz) - I used a dealer in Ashton-under-Lyme. Family business with one other branch.

The car was used so no warranty issue and, if you did a low mileage, they would recommend doing 2 short annual services then a big one rather than alternating short services with the big ones (if that makes sense).

So the annual oil and filter change idea makes sense only doing the big service when the mileage justified it.

If I hadn't bought a new Jazz, that's the regime I would follow with an annual mileage of 3k per annum.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Whiteshark on January 24, 2023, 04:20:30 PM
Whilst I myself would always go for annual servicing rather than skipping one or just oil change I can fully understand the logic in minimising the costs. However I would be careful about skipping cvt oil changes, which  I would suggest are essential to avoid a big bill down the line. It is one area I would not change from the Honda service plan.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 24, 2023, 04:45:26 PM
I am not advocating changing anything from the Honda Service Plan. Most items are mileage-dependent, not time.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Whiteshark on January 24, 2023, 05:50:04 PM
I think you will find that cvt oil change is time not mileage related.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: UKjim on January 24, 2023, 06:12:09 PM
I think you will find that cvt oil change is time not mileage related.

2 years or 25,000 miles whichever comes first.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Jocko on January 24, 2023, 06:49:57 PM
I think you will find that cvt oil change is time not mileage related.
2 years or 25,000 miles whichever comes first so if you only do 3K a year you change it every two years. The same goes for oil and filter. Other items such as spark plugs are mileage limited. You wouldn't change them every two years if you had only done 6K. It is all down to common sense
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: olduser1 on January 26, 2023, 12:23:38 PM
Have your local garage change oil+ Honda filter do a pre MOT check . Then your away for another 12 months in your Jazz.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Redstart on January 27, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
I have always done oil and filter changes at 5-6,000 miles. Which can be 4 months with the mileage I'm doing. I have a manual which the oil was done at 25,000. Air and cabin filters every 12,000. I wouldn't skimp on the cvt service.
Previous petrol mondeos both got to 200k treated similarly.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Kremmen on January 27, 2023, 09:55:11 AM
Odd how different manufacturers treat servicing.

Back in 2002 my 3.0 V6 Citroen C5 was 20k or 2 years !!!
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: UKjim on January 27, 2023, 09:58:49 AM
Servicing intervals were often extended to make the cars more attractive to company transport managers to reduce fleet running costs.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Downsizer on January 27, 2023, 10:41:37 AM
Odd how different manufacturers treat servicing.

Back in 2002 my 3.0 V6 Citroen C5 was 20k or 2 years !!!
In the 1960’s I had a flatmate with a Citroen Light 15, whose drive shaft universal joints needed greasing every 500 miles. It was a very comfortable car. The Citroen “Traction Avant” was the world’s first front-wheel drive car I think.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Marco1979 on January 27, 2023, 10:55:35 AM
Maybe servicing intervals became longer because of technological advancements. Better materials, better tools , smaller tolerances. After let's say 1990, cutting costs became an issue and also because of computer simulations less material was used and parts were manufactured to last for 'a certain period' instead of 'as long as possible'. The last decade, when environmental / exhaust regulations became more strict, I can imagine that servicing is needed earlier to make sure the (very thin) oil remains functional etc.
Title: Re: Very low annual mileage this year
Post by: Westy36 on January 27, 2023, 09:12:21 PM
Mrs W's 2012 Civic 1.8 petrol has done just under 4000 miles over the last year. It only ever gets used on longer journeys, so I won't be changing the oil for a few months yet. Lots of short journey I would though.