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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #315 on: December 14, 2021, 12:16:23 PM »
From what I’ve read the difference in acceleration between flooring the pedal - and creating max engine noise - and being more gentle with the pedal - and minimising noise - actually makes little difference to the rate of acceleration. Is that your experience in real life?
I think it very much depends on the state of the battery at the time.
For a given acceleration, if the battery is well up, then the engine obviously has to work less.
Conversely if the battery is low, then the engine has to to work harder to make up the required power deficiency.

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #316 on: December 14, 2021, 01:21:20 PM »
From what I’ve read the difference in acceleration between flooring the pedal - and creating max engine noise - and being more gentle with the pedal - and minimising noise - actually makes little difference to the rate of acceleration. Is that your experience in real life?
Yes. It's rather enjoyable to feel the car surge forward with a moderate pressure on the pedal. Eco mode reduces the fun aspect.

I think it helps to consider that the engine is only running to charge the drive battery. That's not completely true by the way.
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #317 on: December 14, 2021, 04:02:56 PM »
Yep.

I can accelerate up a motorway sliproad and get to blending in speed with very little noise.

These journos seem to have a point to make to satisfy their advertisers.
That’s what I suspected!

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #318 on: December 14, 2021, 04:23:39 PM »
Flooring the pedal makes little more sense than letting you experience the simulated shifting moments (that happens to me very rarely...).
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #319 on: December 14, 2021, 05:17:47 PM »
I've never had the simulated shift, and, I haven't driven round like a Sunday driver.
Let's be careful out there !

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #320 on: December 14, 2021, 05:38:59 PM »
From what I’ve read the difference in acceleration between flooring the pedal - and creating max engine noise - and being more gentle with the pedal - and minimising noise - actually makes little difference to the rate of acceleration. Is that your experience in real life?
Yes. It's rather enjoyable to feel the car surge forward with a moderate pressure on the pedal. Eco mode reduces the fun aspect.

I think it helps to consider that the engine is only running to charge the drive battery. That's not completely true by the way.

Good point about the Econ mode. I use it round town but it certainly stifles the throttle response so I knock it off on the open road.

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #321 on: December 14, 2021, 05:47:24 PM »
I can get the simulated shifts at 20-30mph, just going up slight hills at only 1/4 accelerator.

I think it is programmed just to break up the constant noise of the petrol engine when it is needed.

It's most noticeable at high speeds with full throttle, but I can get it at other times.

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #322 on: December 15, 2021, 09:48:37 AM »
I'm not often aware of the fake gear-changes. Hearing it must be a result of the style of driving.
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #323 on: December 15, 2021, 12:17:22 PM »
it seems to occur when the car is under load and accelerating a bit with a steady accelerator position - going uphill/etc.

I can get it to happen at low speed under light acceleration going up a slight hill from a stop, under 30mph.

It does seem just like real gear changes, if you didn't know then someone driving it would assume it had a normal gearbox.

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #324 on: December 15, 2021, 03:08:26 PM »
.. It does seem just like real gear changes, if you didn't know then someone driving it would assume it had a normal gearbox.
I think that's it's there for people who might be concerned about Continuously Variable Transmission's, (CVT). In the past CVT's could be a bit naff.
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #325 on: December 15, 2021, 03:49:02 PM »
...Derbyshire can be 'hilly' and I get the 'gear changes' a fair amount of the time.

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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #326 on: December 15, 2021, 05:22:01 PM »
...Derbyshire can be 'hilly' and I get the 'gear changes' a fair amount of the time.
I love the Derbyshire Peaks. In non pandemic times I would attend BSA Owners Club camping weekends with my 1955 Golden Flash. Riding a motorcycle around the Peak District is wonderful.
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #327 on: December 15, 2021, 08:17:08 PM »
...Derbyshire can be 'hilly' and I get the 'gear changes' a fair amount of the time.
I love the Derbyshire Peaks. In non pandemic times I would attend BSA Owners Club camping weekends with my 1955 Golden Flash. Riding a motorcycle around the Peak District is wonderful.

Problem is that during decent motorbiking weather the Plods are very active in peak District....
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #328 on: December 16, 2021, 10:22:57 AM »
... Problem is that during decent motorbiking weather the Plods are very active in peak District....
I'm OK with that. The way idiots fly around on their crotch rockets is horrific.
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Re: Would You Buy Another Mk4
« Reply #329 on: December 16, 2021, 12:05:19 PM »
There are some 'missing' features in Crosstar like heated steering wheel, self dimming mirror, heated windscreen which can be had in competitors models of same class.

All of these can be said to be unnecessary but like a dishwasher in the house (not a wife or similar) once had always want.

But that aside this is the best Honda cars I have had from Civic Coupe, Accord Coupe, Jazzs, and Accord.

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