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Title: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on March 25, 2020, 10:14:02 AM
As per title, to be introduced from 30 March.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/351926/mot-tests-six-month-extension-granted-wake-coronavirus
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on March 25, 2020, 10:19:39 AM
Confirmed here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51176409 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51176409)
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on March 25, 2020, 10:23:05 AM
From Jocko's link, official guidance is here

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-owners-to-be-granted-mot-exemption-in-battle-against-coronavirus
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on March 25, 2020, 10:48:48 AM
Drivers are still required to keep their cars in a roadworthy condition and I would imagine there will be spot checks on cars shown to be in the extension period.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on March 31, 2020, 12:22:45 AM
One other unintended consequence of this, assuming things might be back to normal in October, will be that everybody's subsequent MOTs will then fall between October and March.

I'm not sure that MOT garages will be chuffed about being out of work over spring and summer, and overwhelmed over winter...
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: John Ratsey on March 31, 2020, 08:40:36 AM
One other unintended consequence of this, assuming things might be back to normal in October, will be that everybody's subsequent MOTs will then fall between October and March.

I'm not sure that MOT garages will be chuffed about being out of work over spring and summer, and overwhelmed over winter...
The fix for the long-term problem will be to issue MOT certificates which expire when they would have under normal testing. However, the testers will still be extremely busy once the current lockdown is eased.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: MicktheMonster on March 31, 2020, 09:02:15 AM
If they keep giving out the extensions for  whole year then work load on mot testers will balance out, can't imagine they will allow this however.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on March 31, 2020, 09:18:42 AM
If they keep giving out the extensions for  whole year then work load on mot testers will balance out, can't imagine they will allow this however.

It will, but I always work all my tests around so they fall in the summer months when the weather is decent. All our cars MOTs will be extended into winter, my main car will be due in January now!


The fix for the long-term problem will be to issue MOT certificates which expire when they would have under normal testing. However, the testers will still be extremely busy once the current lockdown is eased.

I can't see people being keen on being issued 6 month MOTs either  :(
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on March 31, 2020, 10:04:39 AM
The station I use does HGV MOTs so if they are open I will just get mine done when it is due. Most MOT stations will still be open. I believe the government plan is for if you CANNOT get an MOT.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on March 31, 2020, 12:39:42 PM
The station I use does HGV MOTs so if they are open I will just get mine done when it is due. Most MOT stations will still be open. I believe the government plan is for if you CANNOT get an MOT.

Of course you can get an MOT early, but all MOT expiry dates between April and September inclusive are being extended automatically, in order of date.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: culzean on April 28, 2020, 01:11:33 PM
Government site to give guidelines and check status of your MOT

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-mots-for-cars-vans-and-motorcycles-due-from-30-march-2020#eligibility
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: culzean on May 04, 2020, 01:03:20 PM
If you just go to     https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/    website and put in reg number it will tell you when the expiry date of MOT is, just done my motorbike ( MOT was due to expire on 6 May ) and expiry date is now 6 Nov. 

If your MOT has not been automatically extended ( update only happens 3 days before it was normally due to expire ) you need to tell them to update their database or you could get picked up on Police ANPR kit as having no MOT. 
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: VicW on May 04, 2020, 03:19:45 PM
Copied and pasted from the DVSA website moments ago.

"How the 6-month extension works
Your vehicle’s MOT expiry date will be automatically extended by 6 months if it’s eligible. This will be done about 7 days before it’s due to expire."

Vic.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on May 04, 2020, 04:56:02 PM
Copied and pasted from the DVSA website moments ago.

"How the 6-month extension works
Your vehicle’s MOT expiry date will be automatically extended by 6 months if it’s eligible. This will be done about 7 days before it’s due to expire."

Vic.

As Culzean says, it's generally happening around 3/4 days before it's due, an case anyone was getting twitchy.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: culzean on May 04, 2020, 07:37:02 PM
Copied and pasted from the DVSA website moments ago.

"How the 6-month extension works
Your vehicle’s MOT expiry date will be automatically extended by 6 months if it’s eligible. This will be done about 7 days before it’s due to expire."

Vic.

As Culzean says, it's generally happening around 3/4 days before it's due, an case anyone was getting twitchy.

Maybe they are making sure that you are not going to MOT your vehicle before extending it automatically ( our local MOT stations are still open, and I would have had the motorbike done but their motorbike tester was off work - and was not due back till after mine expired ). They aim for 7 days but here is a quote from the link I made in an earlier post on this thread.  Maybe they are allowing for delays in their system...



1.   Three days before your MOT was originally due to expire, check the expiry date has been extended.

2.   If the expiry date has not been extended 3 days before it was due to expire, email covid19mot@dvsa.gov.uk

You need to include these details in the email:

 
    the date your MOT expired
    your vehicle registration number (number plate)


The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency will then:

    update your vehicle’s record
    email you to tell you this has been done


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Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on May 05, 2020, 12:05:23 PM
I can understand why they're not extending them too early.

Some owners will still try to MOT in the month before the existing expiry in order to take advantage of the (up to a month) extension to maintain the anniversary date. As soon as the MOT is extended for 6 months, that's gone.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on May 05, 2020, 02:41:40 PM
Not really because the delayed MOT will still run for 12 months so you will still be able to MOT a month before that delayed date, effectively giving you a 13 month MOT. I always MOT my car at the start of its final month.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on May 05, 2020, 04:13:14 PM
Not really because the delayed MOT will still run for 12 months so you will still be able to MOT a month before that delayed date, effectively giving you a 13 month MOT. I always MOT my car at the start of its final month.

I'm talking about those who want to maintain their original anniversary date. Once the extension is added, any subsequent MOT will run for 12 months from the actual MOT date, not 12 months from the original MOT anniversary date, as would have been the case.

If they wanted to keep the original MOT date and MOT early, and the 6 month extension had already been added, they would loose the option to run the new MOT from the old anniversary date. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on May 05, 2020, 04:48:17 PM
I follow. I don't see the point of keeping the anniversary date. Perhaps it is a new car thing. There is, however, no reason why you cannot MOT it again after six months to resume the original anniversary date. After all, it won't add to the administration cost.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on May 05, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
I follow. I don't see the point of keeping the anniversary date. Perhaps it is a new car thing. There is, however, no reason why you cannot MOT it again after six months to resume the original anniversary date. After all, it won't add to the administration cost.

If they had extended the MOTs a month early say, and someone had a pre-booked MOT to get the 13 month ticket, I could see them being a bit miffed. Getting an MOT on the original date should be easy enough next spring/summer anyway, most car MOTs will fall between October and March.

Anniversary dates makes no odds to me, apart from the fact that I'll end up with a MOT in November and two more just before Christmas. I'll be altering that with some early tests over the summer.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on May 05, 2020, 05:57:12 PM
I'll end up with a MOT in November and two more just before Christmas.
No worse than one in May and two in June, unless it is the cost in the run-up to Christmas, which is the worry.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on May 06, 2020, 09:35:11 AM
I'll end up with a MOT in November and two more just before Christmas.
No worse than one in May and two in June, unless it is the cost in the run-up to Christmas, which is the worry.

I'm more concerned about the weather, if anything needs doing!
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: culzean on May 06, 2020, 09:53:50 AM
I'll end up with a MOT in November and two more just before Christmas.
No worse than one in May and two in June, unless it is the cost in the run-up to Christmas, which is the worry.

I'm more concerned about the weather, if anything needs doing!

I agree,  one of our cars gets its MOT in early February,  definitely not the time for working on a vehicle if it can be avoided ( unless you have a relative who does the work LOL )..
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on May 06, 2020, 10:57:53 AM
February he is out lying under snowploughs and gritters  :(
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on June 22, 2020, 10:18:38 AM
I received a letter from the DVLA this morning telling me that if my MOT was not renewed before the end of the month, then they would not be able to resume my Road Tax under my Direct Debit.
However, two days ago my MOT date was extended back until December.
It looks like a case of an automatically generated letter sent out before the moving of the MOT date. If they extended the MOT date a couple of days sooner, it would save the waste of sending out all these letters (wouldn't imagine I am the only one to get a letter). Government money-wasting again.  >:(
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: sparky Paul on June 22, 2020, 11:05:02 AM
I received a letter from the DVLA this morning telling me that if my MOT was not renewed before the end of the month, then they would not be able to resume my Road Tax under my Direct Debit.
However, two days ago my MOT date was extended back until December.
It looks like a case of an automatically generated letter sent out before the moving of the MOT date. If they extended the MOT date a couple of days sooner, it would save the waste of sending out all these letters (wouldn't imagine I am the only one to get a letter). Government money-wasting again.  >:(

Quite a lot of muttering about this on other forums, people worried that their tax won't be renewed.

These "get your car MOTed or else" letters are only sent to those on DD. You would have thought they would have foreseen this and suspended them, seeing as all vehicles currently due an MOT are being extended.

Telling people to contact DVLA is it hasn't been extended 3 days before expiry is cutting it a bit fine too, but I haven't heard of any failures yet.

They are winding down the extensions for HGVs, with 3 month extensions granted for MOTs due June/July. There is some debate how they are going to unwind the car MOT extensions, I think the penny has finally dropped that bunching the majority of MOTs into the winter 6 month period is not going to be a good idea.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: RichardA on June 27, 2020, 11:49:24 AM
Some garages are still sending out MOT reminders through the post or via text. I've received two from different garages during the last few weeks. My MOT was due on the 7th July.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on June 27, 2020, 12:42:40 PM
Garages are doing MOTs but few people are going in for them. There is nothing to stop you getting your test done now but if it fails that's it. You cannot run it till the MOT is up in six months. My extension went on six days before the old expiry date.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: VicW on June 27, 2020, 01:49:31 PM
In the papers today that the government have realised what was obvious all along that with the six month extension some cars will be unroadworthy and they are now looking at stopping the extension scheme. Presumably those cars that have already been granted the extension would keep it.
Doesn't bother me as I had mine done when it was serviced which was at its usual twelve month interval.

Vic

Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on June 27, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
Some cars are completely unroadworthy after 12 months, never mind 18. It is all very well stopping the extension, I am surprised they haven't already done so, but if you are shielding it was not possible to get the MOT renewed.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: John Ratsey on June 27, 2020, 08:56:10 PM
Some cars are completely unroadworthy after 12 months, never mind 18. It is all very well stopping the extension, I am surprised they haven't already done so, but if you are shielding it was not possible to get the MOT renewed.
Back in the '60s, when the time before the first MoT test was being reduced, Flanders & Swann commented on one of their records (I can't remember which) that the first MoT test should be done when the vehicles emerged from the factory! That got a good chuckle from the audience who shared the experience that most vehicles seemed to be put together on Friday afternoons and the first few months of ownership were spent in fixing problems.
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: Jocko on June 27, 2020, 11:20:04 PM
A mate of mine bought a brand new Datsun 120Y (remember them).

(https://i2.wp.com/www.aronline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/datsun_120y_1.jpg?resize=600%2C450)

At its first MOT, it needed a fortune spent on welding, and at its second it went to the scrapyard, with 15,000 miles on the clock!
Title: Re: 6 month extension for MOTs
Post by: culzean on June 28, 2020, 11:03:05 AM
A mate of mine bought a brand new Datsun 120Y (remember them).

At its first MOT, it needed a fortune spent on welding, and at its second it went to the scrapyard, with 15,000 miles on the clock!

The earlier Jap cars had very little in the way of underseal and anti-corrosion - simply because they do not use salt on the roads in Japan or most of Asia. Mind you a lot of cars made in Britain around that time also needed welding and sills replacing quite early in their life --- I remember Zeibart treatment      https://www.ziebartworld.com/index.php/en/service/rust-protection   was the thing to have done to your new vehicle if you wanted it to last past its first MOT without chassis or bodywork repairs...