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Title: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Saycol on January 22, 2022, 01:39:15 PM
Just looking at the Honda U.K. website and under “Key Features “ for the Crosstar it clearly does NOT have a rear view camera. Further down on the same page, when expanding specific features, it shows it does have one. Thoughts, anyone?
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Expatman on January 22, 2022, 03:13:13 PM
When I last checked with Honda the Crossbar did have a rear view camera as standard. However worth checking with Honda UK before ordering - use the web chat feature on the Honda website.

Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: sportse on January 22, 2022, 04:56:01 PM
They seem to get their features wrong on many spec sheets - perhaps to make the higher models look better value?

When I was looking to buy my car, the spec sheet seemed to suggest that it was only the EX that got apple carplay/android auto - whereas many models have them as standard.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Kremmen on January 22, 2022, 05:18:24 PM
My dealer had the spec showing the nearside door mirror auto dipped when reversing.

Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Bristol_Crosstar on January 23, 2022, 10:00:28 PM
I'm sure all Crosstars have the reversing camera, it's part of the EX spec
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mikeoc on January 24, 2022, 08:50:36 AM
Definitely says no on UK Honda website, it may be they changed the spec, but I can’t imagine why if existing Crosstar have one. I’m waiting for my local dealer to have a demo for me to test drive, will report back then  :)
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Wivenhoe on January 24, 2022, 08:51:23 AM
Due to the ‘chip’ shortage other manufacturers are dropping optional cameras - perhaps Honda have the same issue. I am on a Range Rover Velar forum and cars are being delivered without the specified cameras or orders are being pushed out to 9 months if the cameras are insisted on.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mikeoc on January 24, 2022, 09:09:16 AM
You could be right, the rear view camera now looks to be removed from the EX spec too, I could have sworn it was still listed when I looked yesterday… 
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Kremmen on January 24, 2022, 09:17:53 AM
I thought the Honda drive recorder made use of the rear camera?

If so then the drive recorder is now only front facing.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Neil Ives on January 24, 2022, 09:35:12 AM
I thought the Honda drive recorder made use of the rear camera?
Drive recorder?! I checked and saw that it's an optional extra.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Deejay on January 24, 2022, 10:16:06 AM
On the Honda website it’s only the Key features section that omitted the rear camera. In the full specification under function and technology it shows that both EX and Crosstar have reversing cameras.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Jazzik on January 24, 2022, 11:33:27 AM
On the Polish Honda website the Key features section as well as specific features, (still?) show that both EX and Crosstar have reversing cameras.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: sportse on January 24, 2022, 02:50:33 PM
I thought the Honda drive recorder made use of the rear camera?

If so then the drive recorder is now only front facing.

Yes - perhaps they knew they were going to drop rear cameras. In the marketing material it says rear recording but only *where a rear camera is fitted.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mikeoc on January 24, 2022, 02:55:23 PM
The dealer I am speaking to to arrange the test drive, just said it is standard on the Crosstar still, so I let him know I was querying as the Honda website says it isn’t in the Key features - at least it will prompt someone to look into it - might all be a recent development as someone else said, or just a plain old error  :)
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Jazzik on January 24, 2022, 03:38:08 PM
Yes - perhaps they knew they were going to drop rear cameras. In the marketing material it says rear recording but only *where a rear camera is fitted.

Or maybe they remembered that the SR and SE don't have a rear camera?  :D
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Bristol_Crosstar on January 24, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
I just downloaded the brochure from the Honda website and "Rear View Camera" is listed for EX grade/Crosstar
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: sportse on January 24, 2022, 05:38:13 PM
I just downloaded the brochure from the Honda website and "Rear View Camera" is listed for EX grade/Crosstar
The brochures usually have a disclaimer about spec sadly - sometimes the cars pictured can’t even be ordered in the UK :( it will probably be on the last page in small letters.

There have been a few people who ordered a new car based on the brochures and then found missing items when they collected the car.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mikeoc on January 25, 2022, 08:37:39 AM
The dealer I’ve been speaking to says 100% the reversing camera is still included, but i think anyone configuring a new car, where it says it isn’t, should double-check just to be safe.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: sportse on January 25, 2022, 09:27:24 AM
I’d heard people buying expensive brand new Land Rover products aren’t getting nice digital dashboards now like many cars (including the Jazz) and are instead getting dashboards with ‘old fashioned’ dials due to the chip shortage.

On a lot of brand new Volvo models , they don’t get blind spot monitoring currently - again something we have on Jazz.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Foksadure on January 27, 2022, 07:45:56 AM
Chip Shortage Forces Automakers to Remove Features≈ (https://www.siliconexpert.com/blog/automakers-remove-features/)

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Digital Gauges – French carmaker Peugeot replaced the digital gauges in the Peugeot 308 hatchback with old-school analog speedometers. This is the only model affected.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Kremmen on January 27, 2022, 08:28:30 AM
That would be a deal breaker for me
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Wivenhoe on January 27, 2022, 10:32:05 AM
I’d heard people buying expensive brand new Land Rover products aren’t getting nice digital dashboards now like many cars (including the Jazz) and are instead getting dashboards with ‘old fashioned’ dials due to the chip shortage.

On a lot of brand new Volvo models , they don’t get blind spot monitoring currently - again something we have on Jazz.
There are a lot of disappointed new owners of Land Rovers without 360 cameras and digital displays that were included in the spec and price but not getting any savings as in the small print of the orders JLR have the right to change the spec at any time - the only recourse is they can reject the car and get their deposit back. Dealers want the rejection as they can sell the car now without any discounts that they may have agreed before the chip issue. In my case, my 9 month old Velar is worth more than I paid last May ! New cars normally drop by up to 20% once owned
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: JazzandJag on February 10, 2022, 09:44:42 AM
Whilst at my dealers yesterday I asked this question and was told that this was a website error and the cameras remain standard equipment on Crosstar and EX models. I later checked the website and it has now been corrected.
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mouse on February 10, 2022, 03:05:18 PM
The current CrossStar does have a reversing camera, picking mine up on Saturday  8)
Title: Re: Rear view camera - still standard fit on Crosstar?
Post by: Mouse on February 10, 2022, 03:15:14 PM
I’d heard people buying expensive brand new Land Rover products aren’t getting nice digital dashboards now like many cars (including the Jazz) and are instead getting dashboards with ‘old fashioned’ dials due to the chip shortage.

On a lot of brand new Volvo models , they don’t get blind spot monitoring currently - again something we have on Jazz.
There are a lot of disappointed new owners of Land Rovers without 360 cameras and digital displays that were included in the spec and price but not getting any savings as in the small print of the orders JLR have the right to change the spec at any time - the only recourse is they can reject the car and get their deposit back. Dealers want the rejection as they can sell the car now without any discounts that they may have agreed before the chip issue. In my case, my 9 month old Velar is worth more than I paid last May ! New cars normally drop by up to 20% once owned

I know!!! My 26 month old Peugot 2008 lost £250 in value on the trade in and I got that cheap because they were "running off" the old style model. There has never been a better time to buy a new car. That said due to lockdown the Peugot only had 8 k miles on the clock.