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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2013, 03:09:37 PM »
although I hate diesel fumes, I'm looking with interest towards honda's small diesels(in order to buy used one in 5-6 years.. before tesla model S deprecates enough if it ever happen :D )
can not ignore the fact of >20% more efficient combustion cycle, petrol could not get close to that
1.6dtec is aluminium as well now, so it should bring down warm up times and weight diff

re: DMF, is it just bad engineering? they somehow deal with torque on much more high powered cars including trucks. surely it's manageable on 1.6 diesel

re: reliability, that's interesting, how existing honda diesel engines compare to their petrol ones? 2l dtecs were around for quite a while to give some stats, although my last few searches did not bring much info
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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2013, 03:13:47 PM »
@Jazz Hands

the Americans and Japanese have known the truth about diesels for many decades (that is why diesel cars are as rare as hens teeth in those countries) - that they have been pumping out cancer causing particulates and nitrous oxides into the worlds air supply and European governments have lauded them for their 'lower Co2 emissions'. The truth is that people who smoke get cancer because of what they choose to do, the rest of us get cancer because of Diesel engines.  Anyone who has ever followed a diesel vehicle knows that they pump out clouds of muck every time the accelerator is pushed down (even modern diesels) the driver probably never sees these from his own car unless a car is following him at night when he may see it in the following headlights. 

Diesel engines were designed for lorries and trains where their low revs and higher torque (because of longer stroke required to get high compression ratio) were advantageous, putting them in a car is unnecessary, their extra weight causes problems,  and to iron out the intrinsic lumpiness and vibration of diesel (and prevent it destroying gearbox and transmission) they had to fit 'dual-mass' flywheels, and I don't know anyone who has not had to have the dual mass flywheel replaced because it has fallen apart.

all common knowledge if you ask me, hence my comment

my dual mass flywheel was fine BTW :)

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2013, 03:15:02 PM »
@LabRat,

You clearly bought the wrong car in 1st instance if you were doing local /low speed runs,.....

But we weren't - things change!  ;)

hence my specific statement, you were not crystal clear in your original post :)

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2013, 05:36:41 PM »
Some new info and possible photos at http://www.carwale.com/news/10720-2014-honda-jazz-rendered-image-and-details-emerge.html (and various other sites).

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2013, 11:20:53 PM »

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2013, 12:16:33 AM »
i see they have improved access to the spark plugs, it looks a bit dumpy and fat to copy the looks of the civic ill probably get used to it in time

the back is the worst part of it and the dash is very fussy and cluttered
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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2013, 08:53:28 AM »
I like the front look but not the rear one. It looks like the boot is not as long as in the GD.

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2013, 03:16:33 PM »

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2013, 10:40:58 AM »
Some more:
http://www.autozine.org/0_News/Archive/2013_07/News_frame.html
Thanks. The rear end looks slightly more rounded than before. I hope the ability to handle large box-shaped objects isn't impaired.

The other information I noted is the Hybrid will be a full hybrid, not IMA.

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2013, 10:14:50 AM »
Honestjohn has similar details for 2014 Model


Honda has announced the first details of the next generation Fit – which we call the Jazz in the UK. The Jazz will initially be sold in Japan from September 2013 but will make UK shores afterwards, probably in 2014. Honda Japan has released a few bits of specification detail, but they are subject to change for UK models. Prices will likely be slightly higher than the current Jazz.

A hybrid will be offered, as is the case with the current Jazz, but this time it will come with a seven-speed DCT dual-clutch transmission rather than a CVT automatic gearbox. It will be linked to a four-cylinder 1.5-litre engine with an integrated high-output motor. Honda promises a 35% improvement in fuel economy over the current Jazz Hybrid.

Further details are sparse – but what is obvious from the image is the styling will follow that seen on the latest generation of Honda Civic and CR-V. The new Jazz looks a little larger than the old car, with a lower roofline giving a wider, longer appearance, though official data on the dimensions hasn’t yet been released.

Price rise in UK are they mad ? The gearbox would put me off for a start


http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/new-cars/2013-07/first-details-of-next-generation-honda-jazz-emerge/
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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2013, 08:23:55 PM »
Some more info:
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Honda-Jazz-Hybrid-2013-first-official-pictures/
"The all four-cylinder engine line-up starts with a 97bhp 1.3-litre as well as a non-hybrid version of the 1.5-litre petrol engine."

The prospect of the 1.5 litre engine could well generate more interest in the new model.

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2013, 03:24:21 PM »
My son who lives in Tokyo has sent me the following link for the new Jazz.I can't understand why the caption reads 2015 when I believe that the UK and USA release dates are in 2014.
                                                 http://wot.motortrend.com/2015-honda-fit-released-in-japan-401851.html#axzz2e2sb4T4o

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Re: 2014 Honda Jazz
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2013, 08:21:16 PM »
My son who lives in Tokyo has sent me the following link for the new Jazz.I can't understand why the caption reads 2015 when I believe that the UK and USA release dates are in 2014.
                                                 http://wot.motortrend.com/2015-honda-fit-released-in-japan-401851.html#axzz2e2sb4T4o

The US is into it's model years. A car released in late 2014 or even mid way through the year would be branded as a '2015 model'.

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