Honda Jazz perception as an old person's car

[Neil Ives]

... Bring on the 10yr driving test for all. I'll take mine tomorrow.

Yes, good idea.

[guest4871]

... Bring on the 10yr driving test for all. I'll take mine tomorrow.

Yes, good idea.

You would fail the basic driving test with your addiction to your habit of excessive signaling. 

Or perhaps you would cheat the test by "biting your tongue"?

DYOR

[MartinJG]

I would be happy to be re-tested when I'm older, say about 75, let's face it if you're not in control of your car you could kill someone.

I did say to my daughter when I'm older if you think I'm driving dangerously then tell me.

She said don't worry dad............I will !!

Well that's 100% improvement on the average. Unfortunately, it has been my experience that too many people take exception to reasoned observation and age is at the front of the queue. It's invariably some else's fault.

[MartinJG]

I agree with all of the above comments.
What I do find is a lot of younger drivers are very poor at road craft.
Positional driving, use of indicators, swinging to the right to be able to turn left. Poor use of the steering wheel, only using 12 to 9 instead of pushing and pulling the wheel between 12 and 6. All basic stuff, I wonder if it is taught now a days?
Also your comment about the Jazz colour palette. Skyride blue was probably the best MK3 colour. The MK4 crosstar has a similar colour.
The best Jazz colours were definitely the MK1. IMHO.

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Well, there is the small matter of the real world, and then there is the virtual perception of it.

[embee]

The big problem with repeat tests at regular intervals is simply the resources required to do it. If you pass your test at, say, 20yrs and then have to retest at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, then that needs six times as many examiners/test centres as we currently have, possibly more since the number of younger people taking driving tests is reducing.
I'm not sure it would achieve a lot to be honest, the biggest problem with road manners is attitude, and a test won't change that in many people.

[Neil Ives]

The big problem with repeat tests at regular intervals is simply the resources required to do it. If you pass your test at, say, 20yrs and then have to retest at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, then that needs six times as many examiners/test centres as we currently have, possibly more since the number of younger people taking driving tests is reducing.
I'm not sure it would achieve a lot to be honest, the biggest problem with road manners is attitude, and a test won't change that in many people.

Apart from testing for failing driving abilities I think updating knowledge of current rules is important. Also dealing with lazy habits that might have developed;  for instance, not signalling 

Actually, I think the current UK test is too easy. It must be, because many people who drive should not.

[E27006]

The highest  risk category of drivers is the male in the 17 -21 age group, and they are the very drivers who are fresh from being trained and instructed in driving  and also recently tested,  the accident figures and insurance premiums are the evidence. The senior driver as an accident-in-waiting is not born out by the statistics.   However in an accident the senior driver is more at risk of injury and fatality,  this is due to their  reduced capacity to withstand the physical trauma of injuries

[Kremmen]

The most older age group accidents I read about are those who have just changed to an auto and getting the pedals mixed up.

[culzean]

The big problem with repeat tests at regular intervals is simply the resources required to do it. If you pass your test at, say, 20yrs and then have to retest at 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, then that needs six times as many examiners/test centres as we currently have, possibly more since the number of younger people taking driving tests is reducing.
I'm not sure it would achieve a lot to be honest, the biggest problem with road manners is attitude, and a test won't change that in many people.

Apart from testing for failing driving abilities I think updating knowledge of current rules is important. Also dealing with lazy habits that might have developed;  for instance, not signalling 

Actually, I think the current UK test is too easy. It must be because many people who drive should not.

May be the reason UK roads are amongst the safest in the world, and Germany's roads more dangerous than ours.....

Embee is right, it is attitudes that are at fault rather than skills, and attitudes are deeply embedded

[guest4871]

I'm not saying anything 

[springswood]

I think the laziness and parochialism of motoring journalists have a lot to do with perpetuating this perception.

I found a Mk3 Fit hybrid on Autotrader the other day and had to look overseas for reviews and basic BHP and mpg data (impressive). The eye opener was it seems in India and Singapore Honda is treated by journalists with the kind of respect that UK journalists reserve for German made cars.

So they fill out the space with an 'it's a Honda, it's going to be a great car' attitude, rather than filling it with posing the 'everyone thinks Hondas are for geriatrics, has this changed?' question and not answering it. Nice to read a review that didn't include 'of course it's not as good as a Fiesta' either.

[Deejay]

I’ve watched this Jazz review from Singapore and was impressed with the style and content.

[Neil Ives]

Has he got something wrong; he says the engine takes over at higher speeds? My understanding is that the engine never drives the wheels directly; it charges the drive battery.

[sportse]

The only time the engine is connected to the wheels is when cruising at high speed. It’s like having a 6th gear but it’s only on or off and connected by a clutch.

I’ve watched the power flow display on mine - as soon as you accelerate from a cruise the engine disconnects from the wheels and you are back to driving an EV powered by a petrol generator.

[John Ratsey]

Has he got something wrong; he says the engine takes over at higher speeds? My understanding is that the engine never drives the wheels directly; it charges the drive battery.

It's called engine drive - see

. It's the mode where the engine drives the wheels directly and avoids the losses associated with the generator / motor / power conversion. Under some circumstances in engine drive there can also be power flowing to or from the battery if it helps the overall efficiency.
If you want more details of the mechanical system see

.