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Other Hondas & General Topics => Off Topic (Non-Honda) => Topic started by: Jocko on May 31, 2022, 03:37:39 PM
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Today I topped up my tank, the first since the 7th of April, and was astounded to find it cost me £60.40. It wasn't even as if the tank was empty. I remember the first time I had to pay £5 for a gallon in a remote highland town but today it was £8 for a gallon, just outside Edinburgh. When I first started driving it was 22p a gallon (4/4d).
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Can't remember the cost of a gallon when I first started to drive, but I do remember getting a half tank of fuel for 10 shillings (50p for you youngsters).
When did we start paying for a litre and not a gallon?
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When did we start paying for a litre and not a gallon?
Petrol has been sold in the UK since the mid-1980s in litres, as opposed to gallons. The Tory Government then made an order in 1988 that relaxed the requirement to have petrol displayed in both litres and gallons.
The gallon was then phased out completely by first of January 95, although realistically it had been more or less phased out by this time
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My petrol today was 175.9p/litre - £8 per gallon - and this was at my local Tesco supermarket. I hate to think what Shell would be charging.
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It's getting close to £7.50 a gallon for unleaded.
I could fill my Mini from almost empty in 1971 for £1 10s
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Maybe the increase suits the Lobbyists, who don't drive, they can almost prove that ev costs less than petrol diesel vehicles - dream on . Another example if top down laws to restrict the freedom of people in UK & EU.
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The price of petrol is high, but unthinking wastage carries on, the local school, the mothers arrive and drop-off the children, the mothers then socialise for 15 to 20 minutes, leaving their the car engines running burning fuel and polluting, the street is signposted, to turn off engines outside the school to reduce pollution, but the signs are ignored.
The pricepoint of fuel, to induce those women to curb their wasteful habits, what is the pricepoint ? £10 / gallon, £20 / gallon. Comments please.
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The pricepoint of fuel, to induce those women to curb their wasteful habits, what is the pricepoint ? £10 / gallon, £20 / gallon. Comments please.
Maybe better a brain transplant... :'(
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I read somewhere that the US pay 4 dollars a gallon works out about £3.20.
Doesn't seem fair does it?
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It's getting close to £7.50 a gallon for unleaded.
I could fill my Mini from almost empty in 1971 for £1 10s
It was 5 bob a gallon for long enough.
That's 25p per gallon or about 5p per litre.
That's not coming back even if Rees- Mogg wants to revert to imperial measures.
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I was in the USA at the beginning of May visiting my daughter and her husband. The gas guzzling SUV I was travelling in needed filling 3 times in a week. Taking into account the different size of a US gallon and an imperial gallon the equivalent price for an imperial gallon would be £3.90, or 86p per litre.
The price of used vehicles in the US is surprisingly high and many of them have done mega mileages, it is a big country after all. We had a day out to the neighbouring town, it didn't look far on the map but it was 90 miles there and 90 miles back. The 4 litre 15 year old Ford SUV belonging to my daughter has done 225000.
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It's all relative to what drivers willing to pay Egypt 35p per litre but in Venezuela you can have a bath for under £1.00, it's 2p per per litre. Now why doesn't our Govt swop fresh water for fuel? I just wonder......
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Not just petrol of course, but also energy in terms of Gas/Electricity.
I've just been informed that my energy bill is likely to double in October, to an estimated £2800/year.
Now, given that the government regards people spending more that 10% of income on energy, as being in energy poverty.
How many pensioners and others do you know, on an income of £28000+ per year?
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According to this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61750251 we are being taken to the cleaners by the refineries.
"On the 8 June 2021, refiners were making $9.26 per barrel from refining petrol, and $6.84 per barrel refining diesel. On Wednesday, they were making $43.11 on petrol, up 366%, and $51.13 on diesel, up 648%."
366% increase? 648% for the black stuff? Criminal.
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I read that.
At its peak oil was $128 a barrel. It's currently $104 but the retailers are still raising prices.
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The CMA has launched a market study. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/review-finds-cause-for-concern-in-some-parts-of-road-fuel-market
Why has it taken so long for the CMA to act? Why aren't the refineries margins capped?
The likes Helge Lund of BP and Darren Woods of Exxonmobil should be bought to account for their companies actions. I've read time and again of the impact of fuel prices. People sleeping in cars because they cannot afford the commute and similar. Forecourt drive offs and abuse at record levels. It has such a huge impact on society.
HMRC mileage rates have only just increased by a paltry 3ppm. The govt is so slow to react to current prices.
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There's something dodgy going on that's for sure. The pound has been a bit weak against the dollar so that's an extra thing behind higher prices but you can't help thinking that the oil companies are trying to recoup profit losses from during the pandemic. Even the large supermarket chains are unwilling to cut prices or offer extra nectar/clubcard points. You never get coupons for 10 pence a litre off either (that may be because margins are being squeezed elsewhere).
There doesn't appear to be any real competition.
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Fuel suppliers in the 1990's stopped smaller garages refilling by demanding a minimum delivery of 1000+ litres, hence the demise of many independent garages filling stations. I reckon there are 3 or 4 big players for fuel in UK, no wonder we are paying by post code . I plan my longer trips around Costco sites saving around 10p p litre. We should just stop filing up for any fuel to give these people a jolt.
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Remember when supermarkets entered the fuel business and the big boys had to drop their excessive prices to match.
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Thought occured to me, is there perhaps a link between the massive refinery rip off and the recent windfall tax imposed on the oil companies?
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Now down to ~$95 a barrel, pre invasion prices but still it stays high
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So that would put e10 about £1.50 litre? Rocket and feather pricing again. >:(
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Thought occured to me, is there perhaps a link between the massive refinery rip off and the recent windfall tax imposed on the oil companies?
Never mind the windfall tax on the oil companies, think of the take being made by the treasury, fuel duty and VAT.
Duty is 53p (near enough), and then you pay VAT on the fuel cost PLUS the duty (tax on tax, except legally/technically duty isn't tax, is it?). At £1-89 pump price that's about 85p to the government per litre. Kerching.
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Just noticed that the cheapest garage near me has edged the price down by 1 pence a litre since earlier this week (the Irish company Apple Green). £1.879 per litre for E10.
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Costco Liverpool & Chester 182.9p unleaded
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cheapest-petrol-station-trago-mills-devon-b2124136.html
How near would you have to be to break even if you had a Mark 4 Jazz and were willing to drive at 50mph with A/C set at 25 degrees?
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Costco Liverpool & Chester 182.9p unleaded
That's good. I'm a not a member of Costco but I would be if there was one nearby. I think my nearest is about 12 miles away and I am not often in that area.
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I see a small number of independent garages are selling petrol at circa £1.60 a litre saying that they are still making their usual profit.
They are saying supermarkets must be profiteering at £1.80+ a litre.
I suspect a cartel going on here as all supermarkets seem to be at the higher end.
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Really? £1.60 a litre? Blimey, haven't seen anything like that in sleepy Suffolk. My local Texaco has dropped a paltry 2p a litre.
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Just one, featured on the BBC, but I've read of 2 others recently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-62242678
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It is edging down. £186.9 in the supermarkets round our way.
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I saw 2 or 3 places selling at under 180p in rural Wales yesterday.
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Yesterday, I paid 192.9p/litre for 97 RON E5 at my local Tesco in Dalkeith. I originally went to Asda but they don't sell E5 and I never noticed their prices. Too busy looking for a pump with two green hoses.
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/family-run-petrol-station-selling-168p-fuel-083627654.html
Come on UK petrol retailers.....play fair for a change.
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I wonder if supermarkets are using the extra 20p a litre profit to help reduce and compete with food prices ?
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Liverpool Costco
173.9p unleaded E10
183.9p super e5
My Subaru runs fine on the e5 saving 22p over local S**** v power.
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Our local Asda has E10 now at £1.78 a litre. I know they're still ripping me off at that price, but it is so nice to finally see some reductions.
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Yes - some movement at last. Local Sainsburys at £1.799 - Warrington.
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Costco unleaded 168.9p , only another 69p to go ...
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Asda Dewsbury E10 169.7 last friday.
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Asda Dewsbury E10 169.7 last friday.
That surprises me. I thought Asda had a national pricing policy, sure I read that somewhere.
RAC in the news, our govt has among the lowest fuel tax cuts in europe: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62371732
"This analysis lays bare an uncomfortable truth for the UK government - that compared to other European countries, it's pretty much done the least to support drivers through the current period of record high fuel prices," said RAC fuel spokesman Simon Williams."
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Just been released, BP six monthly profit circa £15bn
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£1.73 today at Texaco yet oil at $95 a barrel? We should be paying circa £1.25 now. Ms Truss will be along shortly to sort this scandal out soon? lol.
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Filled up today £1.62. Murco garage Woolpit, Suffolk.
Cheapest E10 I've found in months. Goes to prove 99.9% of garages are having it away and ripping us all off.
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Filled up with E10-95RON in France at Eu1-36/litre a couple of days ago, that's around £1-25. Macron doubled the state discount to 30c/litre.
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Hungary's fuel price is among the cheapest in the EU. For both Diesel and E-10 unleaded the price is currently £1.03 per litre. This is for Hungarian registered cars only. Foreign vehicles have to pay approx. £1.35 per litre.
The price cap was introduced in November 2021 and due to be phased out in October.
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On holiday in Scotland at the moment and was amazed to see E10 at 160.9p on Skye.
Until I saw it yesterday at Dunoon at 149.9p! Will be filling up there in the morning before getting the ferry across to Gourlock.
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Look on the bright side. When i recently drove across Europe seeing various high petrol prices I was quite pleasantly surprised at the price when I got back to the UK . I was expecting it to be much higher. :o
When I bought my first motorbike at the age of 16 (a Honda !) petrol was 6 shillings and 6 pence a Gallon (£0.0725 a litre) But I only earned £8 a week (and I worked full time in the City of London) so a weeks wage would buy me 110 litres
At £1.65 a litre 110 litres would cost £181. Currently the average wage for 16/17 year olds is about £209 per week. So adjusted for inflation/earnings Petrol is still cheaper than it was when I was nowt but a lad. I havnt done any research but there must be countries in Europe where a much bigger proportion of their wages goes on petrol than it does in the uk (for now)
I also console myself with the fact that at an average of 68.8 mpg my mk 4 is using half as much petrol as many cars, so in terms of petrol cost per mile they are paying twice as much as me. :P
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£1.51-9p unleaded Costco Liverpool this wk, good enough to enjoy 200 mile trip into Wales, very little traffic.
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I was driving on the M5 motorway today. The low fuel warning sign came on. I filled up at a motorway service station. It cost £74! >:(
I should have just put a few litres in and filled up away from the motorway.
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£1.619 central Perthshire on 15/9
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I’m still driving around on that 149.9p Jet fuel I got in Dunoon. Got me all the way home to West Yorkshire with half a tank still remaining. Think it has hit around 161.9 in West Yorkshire now.
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£1.49 !! Blimey, all my local stations are still at £1.68. Ouch.
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They're paying 98p a litre in Australia.
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They're paying 98p a litre in Australia.
And 74p in Russia
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https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
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In Scotland it does seem a bit cheaper. We've been up in Dumfries and Galloway as recently as last week and we paid £1-59 for Shell Fuel Saver (E10). That's what Sainsbury's are selling E10 for in Warrington.
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Interesting we are off to Kirkcudbright soon, whereabouts was the Shell £1.59 ?
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This was just outside Newton Stewart - can't remember the exact location. We had got lost earlier due to the sat nav signal dropping out.
PS
https://find.shell.com/gb/fuel/12833397-wigtown-road-services
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Sainsbury near(ish) to Heathrow was showing £1.60 for E10 yesterday.
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Thanks peto48
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Asda Dewsbury £1.567 today.
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Oil is bought in US dollars. £1 = 1.17$ on 12 sept, !.13$ on 22 sept, now its 1.09 $ . Or put another way ,at todays $ price for a barrel of crude , it would have cost about £73 in August and £79 today.
(Maybe the quasi chancellor will one day say " here is the sick squid I owe you" -pay me back over the next 10 years. )
Ho hum.
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Ask your pension fund which petrochemical companies are in your portfolio and how much they contribute to the fund value
Might change your attitude then?