Electric cars

[Kremmen]

I guess auto only

I'd be interested in the 3 point turn and stopping at traffic lights, etc, on test, is brake hold acceptable

[peteo48]

Just on EVs more generally, I don't know what it's like round your way but I am seeing a quantum leap in the number of EVs. I see a lot of Teslas but also many many vehicles with the new green strip on the number plate. Manufacturers now simply don't advertise straight ICE vehicles any more - it's all EVs and hybrids. The industry itself now doesn't want the 2030 date changed because they are investing and have invested in the transition.

There are loads of reasons to question our preparedness as a nation for EVs but I get the sense that anybody hoping for a change in government policy is going to be disappointed.

In 2030, ICE vehicles will still be in the majority. One estimate I saw was 21 million ICE cars and 10 million EVs by the end of 2030. This means you'll still be able to fill up your ICE car but a guy in the trade reckons that by 2040 the ICE will be all but dead.

[madasafish]

This means you'll still be able to fill up your ICE car but a guy in the trade reckons that by 2040 the ICE will be all but dead.

Forget the EVs, by  2040 I will be all but dead,

[Jocko]

I'd be interested in the 3 point turn and stopping at traffic lights, etc, on test, is brake hold acceptable

I have watched Ashley Neal's YouTube channel and when he teaches on an EV he always has the pupil engage the handbrake, though on one video he did explain the brake hold operation.
I was out with my brother in his BMW 330e and he released the handbrake before driving off. I pointed out to him that he didn't have to as it disengaged as he drove off. He didn't realise, as this was his first car with an electric handbrake. And yes, that is how new drivers are taught to move off.

[Neil Ives]

Forget the EVs, by  2040 I will be all but dead,

I'll be 90 if I'm still alive.

[Kremmen]

Same here, touching 90 early 2040's, but my current plan will see me without a car before my current 5 year package expires in Sep 2026.

I'm currently only doing around 20 miles a month, if that, but holding onto it for when I find a house, to move goods and shackles and a few DIY runs.

[peteo48]

I am increasingly coming round to the view that my current Jazz will be my last car as well. Nearly 2 years and still only just under 4,000 miles on the clock. It will see me out whichever comes first - death or incapability to drive.

[madasafish]

Forget the EVs, by  2040 I will be all but dead,

I'll be 90 if I'm still alive.

93 here,

[Neil Ives]

I'm still averaging 10k miles annually.

[Kremmen]

It will be interesting to see insurance quotes posted here as EV's become more prevalent.

I'm sure we all realise that our quotes are rising because EV's are dangerous boxes when hit and we are all suffering from their quarantine and expert repair needs

[John Ratsey]

Something relevant https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0fzlswg/what-they-really-mean-for-you-series-1-1-electric-cars

[peteo48]

I'm still averaging 10k miles annually.

That's a lot if you are retired. That said everybody is different. Not that long after retirement we downsized to a bungalow and also moved back to the Warrington area where both our daughters and grandkids live. If we'd stayed put I think I might have been pushing 6,000 to 7,000 as opposed to 2,000. Also I have decent public transport options now.

[Neil Ives]

I'm still averaging 10k miles annually.

That's a lot if you are retired

Family are spread over the UK.
Also, my wife and I like to explore new areas. We just love pottering along country lanes and in the Hybrid Jazz my progress is almost silent.

[Kremmen]

Just asking :

[Kremmen]

https://www.wnd.com/2023/09/evs-just-biggest-scam-modern-times/