Service Questions

[guest4291]

Hi there,

My mum just got the i-DSI 2005 Jazz, with the auto gearbox. I am going to service it, just want to confirm a few things before buying everything i need.

Engine oil, is 5w/30 ok ? OR do people recommend using the Honda Green Hybrid oil? 3.6L right ?

Gearbox oil, Honda do ATF-DW1 and CVT oil, which should i use? 3.2L right?

Thanks
Ming

[bill888]

You need CVT-F oil for the gearbox if it is a UK/Europe model. It is sold in 4 litre cans at Honda dealers.

If you search the forums,  you will find plenty of advice on engine oil.  5w30 is fine and so is 10w40.   I don't think anyone here specifically buys Honda engine oil.   Castrol and other brands commonly available are just fine.  3.6L required.

[JazzyB]

Castrol's recommendation is 0W-30 which I personally use.

Would use genuine Honda engine oil if it was available. Shame it's mentioned in the handbook but when you go to a Honda dealer and ask for it they look at you with blank faces!

[guest4291]

Thanks for the reply, everyone.

Just like to share, these shell fully Syth are really good value! Just ordered them there:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161110587828&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

Just going to order the CVT oil off ebay too.

Anyway, i will also be changing spark plugs, any precautions i need to watch out for?

Do people normally change their fuel filter too ?

Thanks
Ming

[guest4291]

Can someone confirm, this will fit my jazz please?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/K-and-N-K-N-air-filter-Honda-Jazz-/261292169054?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3AJazz&hash=item3cd63a175e

Thanks
Ming

[bill888]

There are two types of engine air filters for the Jazz.  Early GD models use the rectangular shaped filter.  Later GD models use a square shaped filter. 

fyi, a good source for part numbers etc.
http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_catalogue_C01.php

There are 8 spark plugs to replace, the rear ones can be a bit fiddly.  Search the forum for advice.

Some advice here regarding the fuel filter.
http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.0

If you haven't already done so, you may also wish to add a pollen/cabin filter to your shopping list.

[guest4078]

As said, you need the square air filter, as in:
eBay item number:290873583342

oil filter:
honda oil filter part number: 15400 rba f01 (or equivalent)
eBay item number:151110104472

Lots of variants of each around at vastly differing prices.

[guest4291]

Could someone post a picture of the fuel filter in the bay please?

as i can't seem to find it, and from that link is this the right filter ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/honda-jazz-fuel-filter

thanks]
Ming

[bill888]

The fuel strainer kit appears to be all of item no.1 in the exploded diagram shown in this previously mentioned link:

http://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=3223.msg16350#msg16350

It is listed as £38 plus delivery at Lings Honda for Honda part no. 16010SAA000.

Rowes Honda offering same part for £25 plus delivery.
http://www.roweshondaparts.co.uk/product/FUEL_FILTER_(JAZZ_2002-2008)_16010SAA000

[JazzyB]

The fuel filter in located in the fuel tank.

[guest4291]

Ok, I won't bother with that then .

Just got some POR15 for underseal too .

Thanks
Ming

[guest4288]

The recommended frequency of changing the engine oil seems very arbitrary to me. The manual distinguishes betwen two modes of driving, severe and normal for 6 month oil changes or 12 month ones.

But that must be very approximate in terms of the real necessity to have the oil changed. Is there not a simple test that can be made on the oil from the didpstick to tell you when you need to change?

[guest1521]

I believe some haulage and heavy machinery operators use 'oil condition analysis' to determine when an oil change is required.

In the USA for motorists and others there's http://www.blackstone-labs.com/. There may be similar in the UK.

Wouldn't it be great if the Jazz engine could accurately 'self-analyse' based on lubricity and presence of undesirable by-products of combustion?

[guest4291]

That is a fantastic price for the fuel filter!!!

Could someone please tell me where is the Pollen filter is, so i can change it please?

Also I just read the handbook, it does states to use ATF-Z1 oil, I know people have said that Honda now state to use CVT, I am just slightly worried.

As in the CVT oil bottle it said don't use it in any automatix gearbox ....

Some confirmation would be great!

Thanks
Ming

[guest4291]

Also if someone has a picture of the drain hole for the gearbox, that would be much appreciated!

Thanks
Ming