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Wilderbeest

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2020, 10:48:56 AM »
Thanks All, this has been going on since May, and I have tried almost everything , new EGR etc.   Every machine just brings up egr insufficient flow .
I thought that garage was 'taking the mickey'. How many owners would fall for it though?
I will just keep running it with the light on , as it runs great, doesn't burn oil etc.
Even the emissions are good?

I will keep putting 99 octane in it ,and drive it like i stole it , to see if that clears it . ;D

 

Jocko

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2020, 11:29:40 AM »
Just be aware, it won't pass an MOT with the light on.

Wilderbeest

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2020, 11:54:26 AM »
It wont have the light on when it goes for an MOT. I will disconnect the battery to re set the computer , or turn it off with a meter. It normally stays off for a few hours of running  ;D

Wilderbeest

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2020, 05:26:22 AM »
I ran it with an OBD Code reader permanently attached for two months. Which always gave the same code when the EML came on. 401 Insufficient flow EGR .
I phoned a 'Independent' Honda Specialist , who advised me that, the EGR passages that are behind the Inlet manifold gasket will be blocked. He quoted £180 , to do the job ?
So , yesterday, out with the socket sets, and thirty minutes later the inlet manifold was off.
There is a steel gasket behind the manifold , which once removed reveals the passages that link the Egr valve to the exhaust .
Wow , these were full of oily thick carbon , with only a very tiny passage remaining for gas to flow  through.
A flat  bladed screw driver , and a can of egr cleaner, removed masses of baked in carbon.
No new gaskets were required , and an hour later , it was like having a new engine fitted.
NO EML , NO Juddering , 40 Plus mpg showing on the dash. And it didnt cost a penny.
This is after buying and fitting;
8 PLUGS
2 LAMDA SENSORS.
1 EGR VALVE
All advised by garage mechanics , after OBD Assessment's.

So, from my experience , if you get a 401 code ,'Insufficient EGR Flow'.
1, clean the EGR Valve.
2, Remove the inlet manifold, and clean the passages , as described above.
Likely Cost , 1tin of Hots EGR cleaner Spray £5.00.

I hope this helps someone.

Westy36

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2020, 12:56:42 PM »
That's a great outcome for some time and £5! The cheap fixes are always the best.   ;) Well done for sticking by your 'mate' of a car and seeing it to the end. I'm sure most people would have given up before you did.

 

sparky Paul

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Re: Jazz se sport
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2020, 09:10:18 AM »
I missed the outcome of this one, what a great post above. I'm sure it will prove useful to someone in future.

I've come across this before, where the EGR valve has been so clogged up that it's backed up into the pipework and manifold chambers. Subsequent cleaning of the valve has little or no effect.

In this case, the diagnostic code was telling you exactly what was wrong.

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