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Title: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: foxleys on February 25, 2021, 07:39:27 PM
Hi

Has anyone upgraded the standard alloy wheels for there Jazz Ex Hybrid?

If I use the configure section on www.honda.co.uk, select the EX version, then click on accessories, 1 set of alloy wheels can be selected at £220.00, there is no option to select 4 alloy wheels, so I assume £220.00 is for a set of 4?

My one and only Honda dealer has just quoted me £220.00 each, so £880.00 for 4!

We don’t have VAT here in Jersey, but something called GST which is 5% added to the retail price.

Please could someone (if anyone) tell me what they paid for a set of 4 for there Ex?

Thanks
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: John Ratsey on February 25, 2021, 08:52:50 PM
£220 for four alloys would be a bargain! This supplier https://www.coxmotorparts.co.uk/honda/honda-jazz/honda-jazz-alloy-wheels/ doesn't list alloys for the new Jazz but you can see the typical prices.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: foxleys on February 25, 2021, 10:37:52 PM
Hmm, interesting, but still very high cost.

Please see attached from a third party supplier, about £525.00 delivered Jersey + fitting.

Honda original about £350 more fitted, bit of a large cost difference.

But thanks for your help & link.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Kremmen on February 26, 2021, 04:55:17 AM
I wonder if when you're buying new via the configuration it's subtracting the cost of the original wheels v buying the wheels outright.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Jocko on February 26, 2021, 08:23:07 AM
I paid £220 to have a set of alloys restored.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Steve_M on February 26, 2021, 08:24:19 AM
The part number for the 16" accessory wheel is 08W16TZA600A

There are a few options to purchase on-line: @ £166.66

https://www.caraccessoriesplus.co.uk/product/honda-jazz-hybrid-16-alloy-wheel

Or perhaps that gives you some haggling room with your dealer.

Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: foxleys on February 26, 2021, 10:08:21 AM
I paid £220 to have a set of alloys restored.

Wish I had a set of alloys to refurbish!
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: olduser1 on February 26, 2021, 02:17:21 PM
Why not try mytyres.co.uk then select an alloy wheel package.
I've used the company for over 25 years they are good value & often can be had via Quidco for cashback.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on February 26, 2021, 09:12:24 PM
Hi

Has anyone upgraded the standard alloy wheels for there Jazz Ex Hybrid?

If I use the configure section on www.honda.co.uk, select the EX version, then click on accessories, 1 set of alloy wheels can be selected at £220.00, there is no option to select 4 alloy wheels, so I assume £220.00 is for a set of 4?

My one and only Honda dealer has just quoted me £220.00 each, so £880.00 for 4!

We don’t have VAT here in Jersey, but something called GST which is 5% added to the retail price.

Please could someone (if anyone) tell me what they paid for a set of 4 for there Ex?

Thanks
I did here in Italy.
The price you have found is for one wheel, so you should multiply it by 4.
In EU the configurator automatically shows 1.200 EUR as list price.
I got mines for 800EUR.
It's anyway a strange price add-on because I was able to get this price and still keep the original wheels as well.
My plan was to have two complete wheel sets (winter tyres on standard alloy, and summer tyres on the upgraded ones).
Normally when you upgrade the wheels you don't get an extra set...

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Kremmen on February 27, 2021, 05:20:20 AM
That's what I don't get.

These adverts are just one wheel. Unless you've already got a set why buy just one.

The Honda configuration page needs clarification.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on March 01, 2021, 12:09:10 PM
It's because Honda Europe pre-defined and pre-ordered some months ago the specific EU trims from Japan, in order to deliver them quickly in the various countries.
So any optional is in fact added by the local dealer, hence you have to pay not only the single accessory item but also the hourly rates of the dealer...
Wheels are no exception here, they will not sell it as a trim upgrade but as an aftermarket second set. This means they're pricing it as single wheel, like other car manufacturers.

In my case this is good, because i wanted a second wheel set to be used with winter tyres.

Just make an example, I had a similar situation with my main car (Audi Q5 55TFSIe). The upgrade wheels, that in configurator costed 1.000 EUR (obviously removing the OEM wheels, like as always, so you're paying only the price delta) came up to cost 6.000 EUR if bought aftermarket. Luckily it wasn't me paying that...  ;D
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on March 03, 2021, 09:30:54 PM
Here they are.
I've switched the summer tyres on those rims, and mounted the winter tyres on the OEM ones.
Pics were taken under full sunshine so the wheels look more grayish than they actually are. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210303/fe1a67f3e5db1fd0374952ebc8e02de1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210303/47fd5905bdbdee75ddf52cafef2751ca.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: foxleys on March 12, 2021, 10:22:53 AM
Why not try mytyres.co.uk then select an alloy wheel package.
I've used the company for over 25 years they are good value & often can be had via Quidco for cashback.


Darn it, my tyres.co.uk don’t ship to the Channel Islands/Jersey. Grr, part of the joy of living here!
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Jocko on March 12, 2021, 11:38:47 AM
my tyres.co.uk don’t ship to the Channel Islands/Jersey.
Can you not get them sent to a friend/relative on the mainland and pick them up the first time you are across?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Arthur70 on March 12, 2021, 06:06:57 PM
saw one on marketplace for a 16 inch wheel C/W brand new tyre never been on the road £50each and 4 available
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on April 27, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
If you're interested, i just swapped wheels given we're now in spring.

The first one (stock rims) is with winter boots.

The second one (upgraded rims) is with summer flipflops (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/7feb4889cae664f30c27820fb9003afd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/a761c235daf78e1a0a77223949b42614.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Expatman on April 27, 2021, 08:57:48 AM
Shock boots, which flipflops?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on April 27, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
Shock boots, which flipflops?
Continental Wintercontact TS860 as winter boots
OEM Yokohama Bluearth AE-50 as summer flipflops

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Yusaku79 on April 27, 2021, 09:31:49 AM
In my opinion it could be a great idea removing the plastic cover on the OEM to have a good looking and better appearance
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on April 27, 2021, 10:15:34 AM
In my opinion it could be a great idea removing the plastic cover on the OEM to have a good looking and better appearance
Personally I don't like the full black wheels, even when I had them on the Stelvio (OEM) I found them not very classy.

Honda also claims that the fairing is needed to get extra fuel efficiency... for what it's worth(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f76a42fc59b3709cd90e297564a8b567.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f7ec7f44459a595b5ae13f70d3319cdc.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on April 27, 2021, 11:05:05 AM
In some other topic I posted the pic of OEM wheels without fairing. Not very good looking to me.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f8dbd616fd1c98ff035f16427ac24c23.jpg)

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Yusaku79 on April 27, 2021, 01:18:02 PM
In some other topic I posted the pic of OEM wheels without fairing. Not very good looking to me.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f8dbd616fd1c98ff035f16427ac24c23.jpg)

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IMHO the colour of the car may be the difference, even you are right, without plastic covers these rims are "strange"; re-colouring them in dark grey to have a star draw may be better
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Zaier on April 27, 2021, 08:03:20 PM
If you're interested, i just swapped wheels given we're now in spring.

The first one (stock rims) is with winter boots.

The second one (upgraded rims) is with summer flipflops (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/7feb4889cae664f30c27820fb9003afd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/a761c235daf78e1a0a77223949b42614.jpg)

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Amazing summer rims, I really like them!
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: foxleys on April 27, 2021, 08:22:44 PM
If you're interested, i just swapped wheels given we're now in spring.

The first one (stock rims) is with winter boots.

The second one (upgraded rims) is with summer flipflops (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/7feb4889cae664f30c27820fb9003afd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/a761c235daf78e1a0a77223949b42614.jpg)

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May I ask how much were the upgraded rims - the all alloy ones without the plastic trim.

Also do you have to remove all 4 wheel nuts of the stock alloys (whilst the car is jacked up) in order to remove the plplastic trim?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on April 27, 2021, 11:18:57 PM
May I ask how much were the upgraded rims - the all alloy ones without the plastic trim.

Also do you have to remove all 4 wheel nuts of the stock alloys (whilst the car is jacked up) in order to remove the plplastic trim?

Yes no problem!
They're the original Honda ones, available as optional.
As said in other replies, Honda doesn't ask you the OEM ones back so you end up having two sets - which is exactly what i needed, so I can easily and rapidly swap between winter and summer tyres.
I paid them 800 EUR (list price is 1.120EUR), which is a bit higher than a generic wheel set (you can find good commercial ones at around 600EUR) but in this way I was sure they were perfectly fitting with the car.
It's very difficult to find 16" rims with ET50 and 6.5J width (normally they're 7J and ET45).

Regarding the other question, yes you have to remove the nuts before you can take away the plastic fairing.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: R2D3 on July 13, 2021, 06:17:29 PM
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere but I cannot find it.

Do the plastic wheel trims on the EX alloys serve any useful purpose?  Do they, for example protrude sufficiently to protect against kerbing?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: alfaomega on July 13, 2021, 07:13:12 PM
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere but I cannot find it.

Do the plastic wheel trims on the EX alloys serve any useful purpose?  Do they, for example protrude sufficiently to protect against kerbing?
Not much protection, actually.
It's more for aerodynamic purposes, like in all "fuel saver" trims nowadays

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Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 22, 2022, 12:32:29 PM
... I've taken one trim off. I do like the looks of just the alloy, only problem is there is no centre cap. This makes it look a bit crap really. I'm guessing Honda don't do something to fit as they probably don't intend for people to remove the trims.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on May 22, 2022, 02:27:23 PM
... I've taken one trim off. I do like the looks of just the alloy, only problem is there is no centre cap. This makes it look a bit crap really. I'm guessing Honda don't do something to fit as they probably don't intend for people to remove the trims.

Prius drivers have been doing something similar removing the plastic trims on their alloy wheels, buying wheel centre caps off eBay which fit their wheels - not sure if a standard Honda wheel centre cap would fit?

FYI they only seem to make 0.1mpg difference to one driver who checked, not sure why they are fitted for such a small difference vs the cost of the trims.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 22, 2022, 02:33:40 PM
... Will look for some. If I had brains I would've measured the hole  ;D
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 23, 2022, 03:19:59 PM
...Does anyone know the centre diameter?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 25, 2022, 04:46:06 PM
...No one?

I'll have to take the wheel off again...
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Kremmen on May 25, 2022, 05:31:42 PM
I guess most of us don't have a jack and tools to get a wheel off.

Which is comical when the manual shows a suggested wheel rotation pattern !
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 25, 2022, 05:51:29 PM
... Was hoping someone that has done already, and posted pics, had thought to measure as I didn't  ;D
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on May 26, 2022, 01:44:12 PM
Probably 5.5cm, if they are the same as the ones on the crosstar.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220526/01de1c9d7293a7093220ff58fa1fe440.jpg)
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on May 31, 2022, 09:39:24 PM
...Ordered some cheapish plain Black centre caps, 56mm for now just to see what they looked like. That size Honda badged ones were very thin on the ground when I looked.
They took longer to fit than the actual wheel change!  :o pretty tight fit (which means they'll fall off soon enough  ;D)
I think the overall look is much better although I know lots won't like it.. Not sure about changing to black wheel nuts or some black nut covers, or indeed just leave them silver as is.

...And yes they need a good clean, along with the car  ;D
Matte finish,  best just using soapy water? or is there a recommended product?


Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on June 02, 2022, 07:23:07 AM
They look a lot better than I expected. 8)

I'd leave the nuts silver.  When I was looking at black wheel nuts on flea bay, a few listings admitted the black  coating wasnt very durable. (passive zinc ?)  Possibly true of those listings who make no mention of this.  Plus you may need a  set of black locking nuts.  caps may fit the hexagonal nuts  but not the locking one.

  I wonder if ,with a lot of effort and ingenuity ,it could be possible to fit inexpensive proprietary 16 " hub caps  .
Maybe  cut off the clips and springs from the back of the hub cap, drill 5 holes through the hub caps that can be used to bolt  them to suitable  nylon clamps and spacers fitted into 5 of the holes on the wheel.   Care would need to be taken that its secure and doesnt chafe the wheel. 

Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: shufty on June 02, 2022, 08:12:10 AM
...Yeah maybe leaving them silver is the way to go.
Ingenuity isn't something I have an over abundance of  ;D
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: aphybrid on June 02, 2022, 10:10:31 AM
... I've taken one trim off. I do like the looks of just the alloy, only problem is there is no centre cap. This makes it look a bit crap really. I'm guessing Honda don't do something to fit as they probably don't intend for people to remove the trims.

If the hubs are prepared for 'standard' Jazz caps (56mm hub) I have two different sets - used (except 2 off individual shiny which are new) - Due to file size have put photos in for sale section
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on June 03, 2022, 07:32:15 AM
- Due to file size have put photos in for sale section

Or resize it to a smaller file size  using an image editor. .  Cropping to closer  detail may be enough ,or if not,  resize the whole image  to a smaller file size.   Computers and devices often include a simple editor that can do these jobs  (such as 'paint' on a PC which allows you to copy the image at chosen percentage of its original size.  )    Some editors  (often available free on line) also allow you to save the same size image but at a lower jpeg resolution. Giving a large  reduction in file size for very little loss in image quality.The quality is more  than good enough for posting on sites like this. 
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: aphybrid on June 03, 2022, 11:10:38 AM
- Due to file size have put photos in for sale section

Or resize it to a smaller file size  using an image editor. .  Cropping to closer  detail may be enough ,or if not,  resize the whole image  to a smaller file size.   Computers and devices often include a simple editor that can do these jobs  (such as 'paint' on a PC which allows you to copy the image at chosen percentage of its original size.  )    Some editors  (often available free on line) also allow you to save the same size image but at a lower jpeg resolution. Giving a large  reduction in file size for very little loss in image quality.The quality is more  than good enough for posting on sites like this.

Thanks for that - did that via paint for the other picture but for some reason same process wouldn't work on this one, a W11 vagary?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on June 22, 2022, 02:13:03 PM
Not sure if Honda has bumped up their spare parts prices recently, but someone has just been quoted £700 for a new 16" wheel and tyre for a Jazz from a main dealer! That's after paying £295 for their first service too, so no discounts look likely.

£600 for the alloy and £100 for the tyre - even the dealer was embarrassed about the cost.
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Jazzik on June 22, 2022, 05:25:20 PM
£600 for the alloy.

Impossible!  :o This 16" rim costs here (Poland) 1385 PLN, which is £254,-   

Felga aluminiowa 16" JA1601   1 385,53 PLN
(https://akcesoria.honda.pl/uploads/media/default/0001/03/thumb_2382_default_420.jpeg)

https://akcesoria.honda.pl/?collection=car&car=1&page=1&year=0&cats=2&search=
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on June 22, 2022, 05:26:54 PM
This was at a UK dealer, standard 16" EX alloy - maybe the one with the £150 plastic wheel cover costs a lot more?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on June 22, 2022, 05:33:54 PM
Hidden away on Hondas UK website as part of the configurator - it looks like maybe you can exchange your standard alloys for those ones - £960 is the cost for 4 of them after exchanging the standard ones:

16" JA1601 Alloy Wheel
Part number:08W16-TZA-600A
Fitted price: £960.00

No reduction for not taking the standard wheels:


On the Road Price £24,975.00
Grade and engine£24,015.00
Colour and trim£0.00
Your accessories £960.00
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: Jazzik on June 22, 2022, 05:50:35 PM
16" JA1601 Alloy Wheel
Part number:08W16-TZA-600A
Fitted price: £960.00


On the Road Price £24,975.00
Grade and engine£24,015.00
Colour and trim£0.00
Your accessories £960.00

That's for a set of 4 wheels... Which I found way too expensive and moreover I like the extravagant "fans".
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: aphybrid on June 22, 2022, 06:59:11 PM
saw one on marketplace for a 16 inch wheel C/W brand new tyre never been on the road £50each and 4 available

Give us a clue - where?
Title: Re: Alloy wheels for Jazz EX Hybrid, not the Crosstar.
Post by: sportse on June 22, 2022, 07:12:19 PM
I managed to find a few secondhand 16 wheels (missing the £150 plastic trim cover) for £80-£125 on eBay.

They might have been in an accident though.