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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: No Rusty Bolts Etc - Impressed!
« Last post by ninanina on Today at 12:42:15 PM »Quote
It latches properly if you just let the bonnet slam shut by dropping it from a bit of a height. (maybe 30 cm)
That’s how I close the bonnet; by dropping it from 10-12 inches, it works every time
I also dust off under the bonnet each time I open it just to keep it looking like new but to be honest the under bonnet looks great @ 13,000 odd miles!
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Honda Jazz Mk2 2008-2015 / Re: 2014 FIT HYBRID _ WEIRD STARTING PROBLEM!! HELP
« Last post by Lord Voltermore on Today at 10:47:43 AM »Welcome to the forum .
A car normally goes into limp mode to protect the engine if it detects something is wrong. This may also be why its making the car difficult to start. In effect the cars cpu is deliberately stifling the engine performance to encourage you to get it fixed as soon as possible,rather than ignore EML's etc. .Even though the engine might be capable of running quite well , doing so long term may lead to damage. ,
Rather than speculate on what could be wrong its best to get the fault codes read . This may tell you exactly what is wrong , or at least give a good indication of where to start looking (sometimes a fault with one area such as poor combustion triggers an exhaust gas sensor further down the line etc. etc )
I dont know what could be wrong.
If you are able to post the fault code (s) someone may be able to help more .
A car normally goes into limp mode to protect the engine if it detects something is wrong. This may also be why its making the car difficult to start. In effect the cars cpu is deliberately stifling the engine performance to encourage you to get it fixed as soon as possible,rather than ignore EML's etc. .Even though the engine might be capable of running quite well , doing so long term may lead to damage. ,
Rather than speculate on what could be wrong its best to get the fault codes read . This may tell you exactly what is wrong , or at least give a good indication of where to start looking (sometimes a fault with one area such as poor combustion triggers an exhaust gas sensor further down the line etc. etc )
I dont know what could be wrong.
If you are able to post the fault code (s) someone may be able to help more . 3
Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by Lord Voltermore on Today at 10:20:41 AM »
" Affected vehicles may be equipped with a fuel pump module manufactured with low density impellers .
The Recalled vehicles will have the fixing checked and corrected as necessary by an official HONDA
MOTOR CO service
The affected fuel pumps will be replaced "
I interpret the words I have highlighted in red as meaning Honda source their OE petrol pumps from 2 (or more) independent component manufacturers, and cannot tell from chassis number which brand will have been fitted to a particular car. Even on the same day some cars may have got brand A until stock on hand ran out, the remainder got brand (or batch) B
I suspect Honda have only initially financed a visual inspection, from which it may be obvious which brand of pump has been fitted. Honda may only authorise the extra cost of disconnecting and replacing the pump on on those cars with the dodgy pumps.
Replaced pumps will come with a new filter. Those not replaced will still have their original, possibly dirty, filter.
If your pump is not replaced you might wish to get the filter changed anyway while the car is partially dismantled at Hondas expense . But this may involve extra dismantling, and the cost of a new filter. The question is who pays for this - and how much. You shouldnt have to pay the full normal cost of a filter replacement.
If I am right that some pumps are not replaced on this recall the dealer should ideally agree with you in advance whether in the event the pump is not replaced you are willing to pay a bit extra for the filter to be replaced.
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Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - / Re: No Rusty Bolts Etc - Impressed!
« Last post by Nicksey on Today at 07:00:26 AM »After 28000 miles, my 22 plate still looks pretty fresh under the bonnet. I do occasionally give it a 'dust' wipe after a bodywork clean and polish, but this is because I also check the fluid levels and make sure everything is tight. The only area that does gather detritus (generally leaves) is the plastic recess area below the windscreen and wipers. This can be fiddly at times, so the Hoover nozzle comes out to help.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by 2robbie2 on Today at 12:31:53 AM »
In terms of whether the part I purchased is actually in the car, I had my own fears about this and asked for the old part back (which I now have in my garage).
Best wishes.
I don't want to be entirely negative but the used part you got back might be from any honda model they serviced at their site
probably worth peeping through the opening next to hand brake if the fuel tank cover screws show at least any signs of tampering with...
Good point, I'll try and do this - fingers crossed!
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by Krs on March 26, 2025, 08:06:02 PM »
In terms of whether the part I purchased is actually in the car, I had my own fears about this and asked for the old part back (which I now have in my garage).
Best wishes.
probably worth peeping through the opening next to hand brake if the fuel tank cover screws show at least any signs of tampering with...
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by 2robbie2 on March 26, 2025, 07:48:05 PM »robbie, watch the video from the beginning of this thread to have a better understanding what the procedure involves.
It looks like the recall kit they get is just a pump motor with a filter attached to it, the filter is just a small teabag-like looking piece of mesh attached to the bottom of the pump, also some new washers and wire harness.
they remove your old plastic fuel pump assembly from the fuel tank and need to disassemble it to remove the old pump from it. they then insert new pump with filter into the plastic assembly, change some washers and seals, route the new harness and insert the whole lot back into the tank.
you gave them the whole pump assembly, hence made their work much easier, all they had to do was remove your old plastic pump assembly and insert the new one, that's it, no faffing around with disassembling the old assembly.
there should not be any extra charge for it as it actually saved them time and parts!
there are however correct, the plastic housing/assembly/bracket is not replaced as part of the recall but this doesn't need to be replaced unless is cracked or broken.
the plastic housing/bracket is not a filter, it's just a housing for the pump, fuel level float and some pipes and wires.
bearing in mind they had the audacity to charge you extra for saving them time and money, I would actually double check that the part you bought from cox motors actually sits in your fuel tank...
Hi Krs
Many thanks for the response, which was really helpful - your interpretation of the recall was also my understanding of the situation - I didn't expect the outer plastic housing/assembly/bracket to be included, but thought I'd ask the dealer just to be sure, as I didn't want to go through the whole process a year later at the annual service when it was due. The bit that left me feeling short-changed was when it appeared that some others were getting this part supplied free as part of the recall.
You make an excellent observation about whether or not I should have been charged for the labour and I specifically raised this with them twice beforehand (I think it is ridiculous that I have been charged for something that was making it easier for them), but they point-blank refused to do it without me agreeing to pay it (which I think is wholly unacceptable for the reasons you outline - but I paid it because this was still cheaper than them doing it separately a year later).
In terms of whether the part I purchased is actually in the car, I had my own fears about this and asked for the old part back (which I now have in my garage).
Best wishes.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by Krs on March 26, 2025, 07:10:51 PM »robbie, watch the video from the beginning of this thread to have a better understanding what the procedure involves.
It looks like the recall kit they get is just a pump motor with a filter attached to it, the filter is just a small teabag-like looking piece of mesh attached to the bottom of the pump, also some new washers and wire harness.
they remove your old plastic fuel pump assembly from the fuel tank and need to disassemble it to remove the old pump from it. they then insert new pump with filter into the plastic assembly, change some washers and seals, route the new harness and insert the whole lot back into the tank.
you gave them the whole pump assembly, hence made their work much easier, all they had to do was remove your old plastic pump assembly and insert the new one, that's it, no faffing around with disassembling the old assembly.
there should not be any extra charge for it as it actually saved them time and parts!
there are however correct, the plastic housing/assembly/bracket is not replaced as part of the recall but this doesn't need to be replaced unless is cracked or broken.
the plastic housing/bracket is not a filter, it's just a housing for the pump, fuel level float and some pipes and wires.
bearing in mind they had the audacity to charge you extra for saving them time and money, I would actually double check that the part you bought from cox motors actually sits in your fuel tank...
It looks like the recall kit they get is just a pump motor with a filter attached to it, the filter is just a small teabag-like looking piece of mesh attached to the bottom of the pump, also some new washers and wire harness.
they remove your old plastic fuel pump assembly from the fuel tank and need to disassemble it to remove the old pump from it. they then insert new pump with filter into the plastic assembly, change some washers and seals, route the new harness and insert the whole lot back into the tank.
you gave them the whole pump assembly, hence made their work much easier, all they had to do was remove your old plastic pump assembly and insert the new one, that's it, no faffing around with disassembling the old assembly.
there should not be any extra charge for it as it actually saved them time and parts!
there are however correct, the plastic housing/assembly/bracket is not replaced as part of the recall but this doesn't need to be replaced unless is cracked or broken.
the plastic housing/bracket is not a filter, it's just a housing for the pump, fuel level float and some pipes and wires.
bearing in mind they had the audacity to charge you extra for saving them time and money, I would actually double check that the part you bought from cox motors actually sits in your fuel tank...
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by Beanbag on March 26, 2025, 06:21:13 PM »It is my understanding from Crown Honda that the filter was included. I must admit to not getting this in writing, as being 'OldSchool' , I just accepted that
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015-2020 / Re: Outstanding recall noted on gov website
« Last post by 2robbie2 on March 26, 2025, 05:49:48 PM »Dear all
I was hoping you could help me with a simply query (which may also help everyone else with the recall), particularly 'Basil', 'Pebbles', 'Beanbag' and 'Krs' who have responded on this topic.
You will see at the start of this thread that I had my recall done back in January. At he time, I asked the dealer (Johnsons Honda Milton Keynes) if this work included the fuel filter (the outer assembly) and they said no and that only the fuel pump was subject to the recall. They did however say that if I wanted to replace the fuel filter (the outer assembly) at the same time, they would be happy to do this at an additional cost. I chose to do this to avoid the need to reopen the central console a year later when the filter needing replacing as part of the service schedule (I ended up purchasing a fuel filter for £74.90 from Cox Motor Parts online and the dealer fitted this at a cost of £28.80).
Subsequent to the above, I have been following this thread closely online and it would appear as if some members have also had the fuel filter (the outer assembly) replaced at zero cost as part of the recall and not just the fuel pump.
I have just telephoned Johnsons Honda MK about this inconsistency and the Service Advisor insisted that the recall only relates to the fuel pump and that if other dealerships have been replacing the fuel filter as part of this, that is down to them & would be at their own cost and is not covered by the recall.
I would like to write to Honda UK about this inconsistent approach among dealerships, but to do so, I need details (just the name and location) of any dealerships who have replaced the fuel filter as part of the fuel pump recall at no extra cost.
If I get a sufficient response, I’ll then write to Honda UK and let everyone know the outcome.
Many thanks in advance.
I was hoping you could help me with a simply query (which may also help everyone else with the recall), particularly 'Basil', 'Pebbles', 'Beanbag' and 'Krs' who have responded on this topic.
You will see at the start of this thread that I had my recall done back in January. At he time, I asked the dealer (Johnsons Honda Milton Keynes) if this work included the fuel filter (the outer assembly) and they said no and that only the fuel pump was subject to the recall. They did however say that if I wanted to replace the fuel filter (the outer assembly) at the same time, they would be happy to do this at an additional cost. I chose to do this to avoid the need to reopen the central console a year later when the filter needing replacing as part of the service schedule (I ended up purchasing a fuel filter for £74.90 from Cox Motor Parts online and the dealer fitted this at a cost of £28.80).
Subsequent to the above, I have been following this thread closely online and it would appear as if some members have also had the fuel filter (the outer assembly) replaced at zero cost as part of the recall and not just the fuel pump.
I have just telephoned Johnsons Honda MK about this inconsistency and the Service Advisor insisted that the recall only relates to the fuel pump and that if other dealerships have been replacing the fuel filter as part of this, that is down to them & would be at their own cost and is not covered by the recall.
I would like to write to Honda UK about this inconsistent approach among dealerships, but to do so, I need details (just the name and location) of any dealerships who have replaced the fuel filter as part of the fuel pump recall at no extra cost.
If I get a sufficient response, I’ll then write to Honda UK and let everyone know the outcome.
Many thanks in advance.
