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If your Jazz suffers from noisy manual gearbox bearings, please tells us what year the car was registered

2002
19 (17%)
2003
17 (15.2%)
2004
17 (15.2%)
2005
37 (33%)
2006
13 (11.6%)
2007
6 (5.4%)
2008
3 (2.7%)

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Hobo

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #75 on: May 18, 2016, 04:51:55 PM »
Now developed this problem
Any suggestions please thanks

It would help if you tell us what 'this problem' is.

legend-ary

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #76 on: May 18, 2016, 06:25:56 PM »
At 80k car is probably worth 900-950 at best. No point going to Honda but any decent independent garage should be able to fix it for you for about 300-400 but only if you intend to keep it for a few more years. Otherwise you can probably get around 400 for it but then again any first gen can have this issue. Better the devil you know so I would get it repaired and get the clutch done while the box is off. An aftermarket kit will probably cost you additional 80 but atleast you will be good for a while. 

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Re: Noisy Manual Gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #77 on: October 03, 2016, 10:51:02 PM »
As the manual gearbox oil is only due for change at 70,000 miles the service history up to then is irrelevant anyway - (knowing most dealers they wouldn't even change it then  :(

My 53 plate GD (now gone and replaced with Civic 1.8 i-Vtec) had done nearly 110K when I traded it in,  gearbox was still fine,  just the smallest of noises in lower gears.  Most of my mileage was 'A' road and motorway so lower 3 gears didn't get used much.  My wifes Jazz did a lot lower mileage but local stuff and the bearing was making noises about 50K.   The bearing in question is the idler shaft and only affects lower 3 gears,  it was not a design fault,  just a bad batch of bearings and only seemed to affect 2002 and 2003 models.

Symptom is a whining noise that is normally worst in 1st and then gets less up to 3rd and then goes away in 4th and 5th.  Gearbox will not seize or fail,  but when you can't get any more volume on the radio you may have to get gearbox fixed.

This is a good description of my problem too.  Which only started a  1000 miles ago.  (My Jazz is 2003 80,000 miles on odometer).  As i only want to keep the car another 4,000 miles.  Is it ok if i do not fix the issue?   One mechanic suggested that replacing the gearbox with a second hand one would be cheaper than the pulling it apart to change the bearing.  One mechanic said it is the clutch which needs to be replaced (but I dint think so... it was replaced at 60,000 miles).

In. Short, if any one can confirm that they have driver 10,0000 miles with theis infamous whirring sound is appreciate it.  Cause at this point it's hardly worth spending $800 on my car (though it is running sweetly aside from this!)

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #78 on: August 13, 2017, 08:08:20 PM »
I had recon box fitted with new clutch  350  same day  great garage

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2017, 08:23:05 PM »
Well done. Seems like a good price. Did that include everything? Did garage source gearbox?

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #80 on: August 28, 2017, 09:01:08 PM »
Well done. Seems like a good price. Did that include everything? Did garage source gearbox?
I bought both beck clutch 60 off eBay they fitted it free there price was gearbox 180 and 110 fitting so it was 350 all in same day

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #81 on: August 28, 2017, 09:02:37 PM »
Gear box  &fitting 290 clutch 60

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #82 on: November 23, 2017, 08:32:24 PM »
Is there a link between noisy gearbox bearings and not getting the gearbox oil changed on time?

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #83 on: November 23, 2017, 09:09:51 PM »
I cannot comment on mine. Gearbox oil may or may not have been changed as it had done almost 90K before I got it. Should be done at 72K, or sooner if lots of short trips (what do "they" consider short).
I have heard of gearboxes failing well before 72K.

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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2017, 04:19:01 PM »
Gearbox oil doesn't get dirty and contaminated like engine oil,  they probably set a reasonable life for it to cover all conditions, but I doubt going over mileage would cause failure of anything. I don't think short trips affect oil,  but local journeys using lower gears more will cause more loads on bearing that does fail in Honda box.  I have always put molyslip in my gearbox oil and my box went over 120K before I traded it in and gearbox still OK,  my wifes Jazz got noisy at around 80K.
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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2017, 06:00:35 PM »
This was my gearbox oil (2010>2017) certainly did not come out golden, also contained some fine soot like particles which were non-magnetic, although I'd expect any that were to be stuck to a magnet in the case.
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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2017, 07:33:11 PM »
When I was at Rover Powertrain at Cofton Park, Longbridge Bham in the early 2000's installing whole vehicle test rigs we had some manual gearboxes on BMW engines destined for RangeRovers with 'filled for life - do not drain' labels on them,  so it does show that certainly manual gearbox oil can be left in situ for a long time.  It is the combustion products and high temperatures (oil acts as a coolant for the engine) that degrade engine oil.
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Re: Honda Jazz 2002-2008 noisy manual gearbox/shaft bearing problem
« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2017, 09:36:44 PM »
Most cars I have worked on had no drain plug, just a fill/level plug.

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