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If your Jazz suffers from CVT judder, please tells us what year the car was registered

2002
11 (6.4%)
2003
35 (20.2%)
2004
25 (14.5%)
2005
31 (17.9%)
2006
33 (19.1%)
2007
17 (9.8%)
2008
21 (12.1%)

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Toby

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2016, 10:17:36 AM »
Just thought I'd share my experience here:

I have a 2008 MK1 CVT Honda Jazz. Bought 2nd hand this year. Soon after I bought it I noticed that it judders when pulling away, especially if I accelerate fast or up a hill. After reading this thread I put it in at a honda dealer to get the CVT fluid changed. They recommended a flush (change fluid 2x times) which cost 150. They said they did some kind of heating procedure in between the two oil changes (not sure of details). After the flush the judder is gone. Hurray!

Thanks everyone on this thread for sharing your experiences, without which I wouldn't have known what to do about the judder.

BobC

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2016, 12:12:59 PM »
Have a 2002, fitted new pack 2011 at 55,000 km by previous owner. Trace of judder at 85,000 but just drain and fill with CVTF seems to have eliminated. The garage slip routine seemed a bit brutal if avoidable.

Vassili

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #122 on: September 27, 2017, 07:18:54 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I recently bought a Jazz 1.4 CVT from 2005 with 37000km(sorry 23000miles) and I also have a Civic Hybrid 2010 with CVT as well.

The Jazz had the judder and I flushed the gearbox with Honda CVT fluid.
First I drained the old fluid and refill with new. I did a test drive and the judder fell almost to 30% let's say.
Then I performed the ''stall test'', D+brake+2500revs for 10 sec etc..etc. From that moment judder was gone completely!

Went back home drained the CVT fluid again, and refill with new one.  ;D :D

Raymonator

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2019, 05:24:16 AM »
I am amazed no one has read the manual ( when all else fails  :o) . I had a shudder in my 2007 Jazz Sport and after putting up with if for a while I found on reading the manual ,that Honda does not recommend starting in D. It recommends starting and staying in S for round town stop/starting up to 50kpm . This effectively keeps the car running one gear lower than normal which means it pulls up faster when you deaccelerate and reacts faster when you accelerate . I changed the oil ( the proper Honda oil ) and using S the shudder is largely gone . I now never pull away from a standing start in D ( like trying to pull away in your manual in second .

Jocko

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2019, 08:07:49 AM »
Welcome to the forum. The instructions in your manual are not in the European manual. There is no mention of using Sport other than to boost acceleration. The manual states to use Drive for normal driving. Can you tell us what page number you are referring to, just in case I have missed it? Thanks.

Raymonator

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2019, 12:57:00 AM »
You are right Jock ,I should have double checked my facts as it is a while ago that I did it  ::) I must have got the initial advice from the mechanic I was dealing with when I bought the oil . However when I got home and checked my manual on p254 was the advice on better acceleration and increased engine breaking . Also the fact that S is good for stop start driving ( is that not around town driving ? ). I guess I put the two things together in my head . One thing for sure is that it works , the car is a lot more responsive , does not charge into roundabouts and no shudder unless under very heavy acceleration .

Jocko

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2019, 06:33:22 AM »
Also the fact that S is good for stop start driving ( is that not around town driving ? ).
Certainly sounds like it. Nothing like that in the European manual.
Page 254 says:

Selecting Sport shifts
the transmission into a lower range
of ratios for better acceleration and
increased engine braking. Use Sport
when you are going down a steep hill.


and that's it. I have had a couple of automatics with a Sport mode and loved using it. Only problem I found was doing so almost halved my mpg. I used Sport for spirited overtaking, and that was it,

Jazzmeister

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #127 on: December 18, 2020, 07:48:49 AM »
Does anyone have long term feedback on how the CVT fluid flush worked out to cure the CVT judder?
Mk I 2007 Honda Jazz 1.5 CVT | Previous car - Mk II 2012 Honda Jazz 1.3 Cvt

UKjim

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #128 on: December 26, 2020, 06:33:51 PM »
Not sure you call it long term, but our Jazz had a very noticeable judder on every take-off, 2 flushes, a final fill and a dose of Xado EX-120 and 3 months and 1200 miles later and it's still perfect.

Johnocyprus

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Re: Mk1 CVT judder
« Reply #129 on: February 16, 2021, 10:56:22 PM »
Yep a single CVT flush cured the judder on our MK1.

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