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Neil Ives

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2021, 09:27:05 AM »
.. Often there are just four wires in the harness: BAT, CANH, CANL, Ground.
 
So, to check, could BAT and Ground be used to power a device outside of the Canbus system, for instance, a light

Presumably the BAT line is fused.
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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2021, 11:01:47 AM »
...Ordered the pack but not seen it yet to tell what or how it's actually fitted. I assumed out of all the packs available it would be one of the harder ones to self fit.

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2021, 11:28:30 AM »
.. Often there are just four wires in the harness: BAT, CANH, CANL, Ground.
 
So, to check, could BAT and Ground be used to power a device outside of the Canbus system, for instance, a light

Presumably the BAT line is fused.

One would hope so. Bear in mind that its cabling might not be rated to take a high current and might not be switched with the ignition.

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2021, 04:53:44 PM »
.. Often there are just four wires in the harness: BAT, CANH, CANL, Ground.
 
So, to check, could BAT and Ground be used to power a device outside of the Canbus system, for instance, a light

Presumably the BAT line is fused.

One would hope so. Bear in mind that its cabling might not be rated to take a high current and might not be switched with the ignition.

Well, my thinking is that there must be a local source of power for the gizmo's that the Canbus controls. For example, door locks are told to operate by a signal on the data bus but they would need a decent current to operate their solenoid. I understand the purpose of the Canbus system is to remove the need for dedicated power cable to each device on the car; the cars processor(s)  sends out a signal on low voltage data cables.
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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2021, 05:56:16 PM »
I understand the purpose of the Canbus system is to remove the need for dedicated power cable to each device on the car; the cars processor(s)  sends out a signal on low voltage data cables.
They tend to be powered in groups per function via the fusebox. For example all door locks are likely to be powered through the same fuse, the same for the window motors, etc. etc.

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2021, 10:37:42 PM »
...Ordered the pack but not seen it yet to tell what or how it's actually fitted. I assumed out of all the packs available it would be one of the harder ones to self fit.

Great tp hear your feed pack when kit received

...Sorry I think that came across as I'd ordered the kit with the intention of fitting it myself when in fact I've chosen the pack and it will be installed in the car before delivery.

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2021, 06:50:50 AM »
These can be quite a nice enhancement to a car but the cost seems a bit much.
Does anyone know if all the connections exist in the basic cars to allow some DIY of fitmant or possible use of non OEM kit?

If I remember correctly the list price was something like £850, but I was charged around £300.
The lighting in the footwells, door pockets and centre console is quite low  level but the illuminated JAZZ scuff plates on the front sills look really good.

Was kit cost direct from dealer.
Best off from mine is £775 fitted as opposed to 'list' of £875

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2021, 06:54:28 AM »
...Ordered the pack but not seen it yet to tell what or how it's actually fitted. I assumed out of all the packs available it would be one of the harder ones to self fit.

Great tp hear your feed pack when kit received

...Sorry I think that came across as I'd ordered the kit with the intention of fitting it myself when in fact I've chosen the pack and it will be installed in the car before delivery.

Can I hire you next time to negotiate purchase!! Well done.

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2021, 08:32:52 AM »
...Mine was £390 weirdly

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2021, 02:28:36 PM »
I have found online from Glyn Hopkins a price for individual Illumination options;
Doorstep Garnishes  PN: 08E12-TZA-600 - £309
Centre Console  PN: 08E11-TZA-600 - £183
Door Lining Illumination  PN: 08E20-TZA-600 - £233
White Front Ambient Footlight PN: 08E10-TZA-600 - £146.20
Total £871.20

Also found a January 2021 Accessories brochure with the total pack quoted as £875, if bought individually they would total £1080!!

Looks like my dealer offer of £100 off could be regarded as generous for the total pack.


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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2021, 02:34:52 PM »
...Mine was £390

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2021, 07:28:56 AM »
...Mine was £390

Was that a total pack?

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2021, 07:30:23 AM »
...It had better be! >:(

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2021, 09:46:38 PM »
...It had better be! >:(
Let us know what you get, if everything, your my negotiator!!!

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Re: Illumination Packs
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2021, 10:30:37 PM »
...Picking the car up on Wednesday but will have to wait for the Illumination pack as it's on back order. Should be fitted 2nd week in November.

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