As for me, the Civic has gone from a medium sector car to a large family so too big for me.20 or more years ago it was a small car: There's not much difference in size or appearance between the last of the small Civics and the Mk 1 Jazz.
One thing I’ve noticed from Honda marketing:
Jazz - RDMS
HRV - improved RDMS
Civic - further improved RDMS
A software update for jazz would be good, according to Honda we are two behind now.
Shame they didn't put the Civic engine in the HR-V! :'(
Shame they didn't put the Civic engine in the HR-V! :'(The engine seems to be very similar to the one in the CRV with around 180hp hybrid.
I only go out when it's quiet and I can cut corners to smooth the drive. That often involves driving over white lines and as I've posted before, I don't see the point in driving along Scalextric style when I can see a clear road for hundreds of yards both front and back.I have just been on a long trip mostly on fast winding B roads with a centre line. I deliberately put RDMS to the test by straightening bends even more than I usually do. I frequently crossed the centre line, drove on the wrong side to see round bends etc. Without using indicators.
No matter what they do to RDMS I'll be turning it off.
Not once did RDMS react to my crossing the centre line .
The steering only twitched slightly 2 or 3 times on the whole trip, but in other circumstances where intervention was to be expected.
My RDMS will pitch you away from what it thinks as the road edge, or from a white centre line.
I looked at CR-Vs while I waited for the HR-V but the base model is seriously 'underwhelming' in terms of 'gizzmology' and home comforts (heated seats etc) and more thirsty than the HR-V.Shame they didn't put the Civic engine in the HR-V! :'(The engine seems to be very similar to the one in the CRV with around 180hp hybrid.
I was surprised to find that you can actually get a base CRV for the same price as a higher model HRV.
...Oh and the new Civic doesn't look half bad, especially in that blue...
I'm also interested to hear how the 2.0l engine combined with 2 electric motors feels, I have read that the 1.5l hybrid system in the Jazz and CR-V received some criticism (although some of that might be down to the CVT gearbox).Honda caused a lot of confusion by describing the transmission of the current hybrids as "e-CVT". Yes, it is continuously variable but there is no traditional gearbox with the matching of engine and vehicle speeds done by electronics. If you haven't seen this then it's worth watching:
the move to higher riding cars is only going to accelerate - helped by our deteriorating roads!Devils advocate time. ;D Totally agree that extra ride height has advantages for ease of access and better view.
Agreed, but I assumed that we are all sensible drivers on this forum! Longer wheel travel certainly helps over heavily rutted roads (North Yorkshire roads are diabolical) but only if you drive according to the conditions.the move to higher riding cars is only going to accelerate - helped by our deteriorating roads!Devils advocate time. ;D Totally agree that extra ride height has advantages for ease of access and better view.
But it doesnt change newtons law of dynamics. . Kinetic energy increases by the square of velocity. Hit a pothole at 10 mph instead of 5 mph the impact is not twice as hard, its 4 times as hard. Its rare for ground clearance to be an issue on a degraded paved road however bad its potholes or low slung the car . If it is you are already driving too fast.
And having extra ground clearance 'off road ability' encourages you to drive that much faster, and thus more likely to strike pot holes that much harder.
I have often seen it travelling on some diabolical roads in India. An ordinary hatchback copes well enough. But you often see rugged 4x4's having roadside repairs because the owners believed they were better able to cope, at a higher speed.
No worries, maybe my contentious opinion will be gone tomorrow :-X