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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: SamJazz on December 01, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
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Has anyone had experience of owning at different times the SE 1.3 Manual & Sport 1.5 Manual
I'm in the process of looking to change my 2016 SE as the PCP deal is nearing its end and there are good offers on the Sport 1.5 at present.
Just wondering how the running costs compare such as MPG, Insurance Cost increase maybe. No almost three years of ownership my 1.3SE has averaged 54.1MPG, I would guess that approx 80% of driving has been done on Urban roads.
Also was the additional power noticeable, any any other noticeable changes.
Many thanks.
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Skyrider is the man to answer your questions, he seems very taken with his 1.5 sport.
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In the grand scheme of things the increased costs are minimal, you don't buy a 1.5 if you count every penny and drip of fuel. Do you feel the extra power, oh yes, it is a very different drive to the 1.3, quick off the mark from a standstill as it does not have the Atkinson economy cycle and the extra 30 BHP certainly helps. The facelift modifications to the bodyshell (stiffer) and reworked suspension and steering makes it handle better and feel more "planted" on the road. Even if you are in pottering mode it is a nicer car to drive.
Would I go back to a 1.3? No chance!
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In the grand scheme of things the increased costs are minimal, you don't buy a 1.5 if you count every penny and drip of fuel. Do you feel the extra power, oh yes, it is a very different drive to the 1.3, quick off the mark from a standstill as it does not have the Atkinson economy cycle and the extra 30 BHP certainly helps. The facelift modifications to the bodyshell (stiffer) and reworked suspension and steering makes it handle better and feel more "planted" on the road. Even if you are in pottering mode it is a nicer car to drive.
Would I go back to a 1.3? No chance!
This sounds very positive and I'm just reading up on the Atkinson Economy Cycle now which is interesting too. There's a 0% finance deal on at present, I've about 3 months left on my existing PCP deal so I'm considering changing a little early in order to benefit from the current offer. I will ask for a test drive first, it will be interesting to look out for the improvements you've mentioned, many thanks.
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Just wondering how the running costs compare such as MPG, Insurance Cost increase maybe. No almost three years of ownership my 1.3SE has averaged 54.1MPG, I would guess that approx 80% of driving has been done on Urban roads.
Your 3 year average of 54 mpg is very good for urban driving. Is that from the computer or actual fuel purchased?
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Just wondered that myself. I would, indeed did, struggle to get over 40 mpg (actual) in my manual Mk2 which did around 75% of its motoring in busy urban settings. My average journey was very short though.
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Just wondering how the running costs compare such as MPG, Insurance Cost increase maybe. No almost three years of ownership my 1.3SE has averaged 54.1MPG, I would guess that approx 80% of driving has been done on Urban roads.
Your 3 year average of 54 mpg is very good for urban driving. Is that from the computer or actual fuel purchased?
This figure is from the cars computer, it's more economical than my MK2 which I owned for 3 years. Not sure how accurate the computer is though.
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From my experience, also over three years, I would expect the true figure to be 8-10% worse, i.e. around 50 mpg. Still good going for urban driving though. You must have a light right foot, so perhaps you don't need the 1.5 engine...…..
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From my experience, also over three years, I would expect the true figure to be 8-10% worse, i.e. around 50 mpg. Still good going for urban driving though. You must have a light right foot, so perhaps you don't need the 1.5 engine...…..
Most people probably don't. In my experience most people don't use what they have. I've out accelerated 3 litre BMWs in my 1.3 litre Jazz because they barely press the accelerator when I always press mine at least half way down.
At ~3,000rpm Atkinson doesn't get a look-in and you'll leave most motorists behind. Meanwhile I've never known less than 51mpg from my 1.3 although I don't know what the annual average is.
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From my experience, also over three years, I would expect the true figure to be 8-10% worse, i.e. around 50 mpg. Still good going for urban driving though. You must have a light right foot, so perhaps you don't need the 1.5 engine...…..
The 1.3SE I own is perfectly adequate for me, if the 0% finance deal was on an SE, I would be opting for another 1.3. My PCP deal runs out by mid March so I may wait a little longer and see what other deals are about.
The cost of motoring these days is making me consider that the 1.3 will be more economical than a 1.5 and possibly cheaper to insure.
I've looked at other brands, including city cars which initially look like good deals but then when I want one that has air con and a little bit better than the basic spec, the price increases. E.g VW Up and Skoda City Go approx £140pcm for a spec that I would like.
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Hi.
If you needed any help with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Dan.
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I bought a full size spare wheel from Cox Auto Parts for my 2016 Jazz SE about 3 years ago.
Will this fit a 2018 Jazz Sport or 2018 SE.
Thanks.
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The same sized spare fits both 16" and 17" wheel fitted cars. The different profile tyres give the same rolling circumference.
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The same sized spare fits both 16" and 17" wheel fitted cars. The different profile tyres give the same rolling circumference.
Ok thanks that's reassuring to know. Next car will probably be a used 2018 SE although there's a good offer on a new Sport I'm considering. I've looked at other brands of cars, but nothing has persuaded me so for to consider anything else other than a Jazz.
Thanks again.
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In the grand scheme of things the increased costs are minimal, you don't buy a 1.5 if you count every penny and drip of fuel. Do you feel the extra power, oh yes, it is a very different drive to the 1.3, quick off the mark from a standstill as it does not have the Atkinson economy cycle and the extra 30 BHP certainly helps. The facelift modifications to the bodyshell (stiffer) and reworked suspension and steering makes it handle better and feel more "planted" on the road. Even if you are in pottering mode it is a nicer car to drive.
Would I go back to a 1.3? No chance!
I agree with everything Skyrider has posted above 😁
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Just got my 2018 Jazz Sport 1.5L 6 speed manual about a week ago .
On a 70MPH dual carriageway run , driving very gently , the trip computer reckons about 48MPG
Driving around town and "testing" how "perky" its engine is the trip computer reckoned about 34MPG, but this was with me being a bit heavy, so when I start acting my 50 years of age again, it'll probably be a bit better !
I've never owned or driven a 1.3 Jazz, so I can't give any meaningful comparison.
Its more perky than my outgoing 2.0L petrol Mazda6 at low speed and off the line, but that's a much bigger car carrying around another 380Kg of weight, for an 155BHP engine. But the Mazda has a bit more in gear aceleration at lower RPM.
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A week old car will have a tight engine, give it a few thousand miles to get a representative mpg.
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Just got my 2018 Jazz Sport 1.5L 6 speed manual about a week ago .
On a 70MPH dual carriageway run , driving very gently , the trip computer reckons about 48MPG
Driving around town and "testing" how "perky" its engine is the trip computer reckoned about 34MPG, but this was with me being a bit heavy, so when I start acting my 50 years of age again, it'll probably be a bit better !
I've never owned or driven a 1.3 Jazz, so I can't give any meaningful comparison.
Its more perky than my outgoing 2.0L petrol Mazda6 at low speed and off the line, but that's a much bigger car carrying around another 380Kg of weight, for an 155BHP engine. But the Mazda has a bit more in gear aceleration at lower RPM.
We missed out on the 0% finance deal on the Sport as it had ended by the time we saw it at the dealers. :( Hopefully they will do it again this year!
But I am still interested in how the 1.5 compares with the 1.3 in terms of real life economy. I don't usually trust the onboard MPG computer so it would be great if you can give me an idea of what difference you have noticed between the two aside from the performance?
Also as we have had several Hondas (Civic and Jazz's) in the family over the years, one thing I have noticed is the clutch is usually quite weak. On my old Civic and my wife's Jazz, I've noticed that if you do a lot of hill starts (our drive is very steep) or lots of stop and go journeys, the clutch starts to feels strange, something kind of gives slightly int he mechanism but it isn't slipping as such. I'd like to know if the clutch in the 1.5 is beefier than the one in the 1.3.