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Title: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on December 23, 2022, 06:19:30 PM
I took delivery of my new (to me) Skoda Fabia this afternoon. The salesman reversed it into the drive for me and by the time I had run him back to that garage in the Jazz, it was too late to fiddle.
I did shuffle it off to the side of my parking area so I could get the Jazz back in off the road but that was it.
I will keep you informed on how I get along with the Fabia (the first VAG car I have owned in 57 years of motoring).
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: sparky Paul on December 24, 2022, 12:37:18 PM
That's a bit of a change going VW!
 
All the best, hope you have a decent Christmas  8)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on December 24, 2022, 01:41:53 PM
Here is my new addition.

(https://i.imgur.com/voAinhT.jpg)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: sparky Paul on December 24, 2022, 02:59:49 PM
I know a few people with these Fabias, they all seem to like them and no nasty stories so far.

Is the Jazz on death row?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: MartinJG on December 24, 2022, 03:02:52 PM
Here is my new addition.

(https://i.imgur.com/voAinhT.jpg)

Are you calling time on your Jazz?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on December 24, 2022, 05:28:14 PM
Looks mint Jocko. Enjoy and all the best for Christmas and New Year.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on December 24, 2022, 06:21:47 PM
Thank you. I have never wanted a silver car and have never liked the look of them but it is sitting in the drive, straight from the valeters, and it looks gorgeous.
It will be the New Year before I get it out on the road as I have the Jazz for another few days and I am not buying a month's tax for less than a week.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: 123Drive! on December 24, 2022, 11:52:19 PM
Congratulations! I think this generation of Fabia is an excellent choice -much better value than the Polo and better design than the Ibiza, I also own the latter. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on December 31, 2022, 06:30:05 PM
Well so much for my new car. I have not had it out on the road yet but this morning, while swapping the original plates back onto the Jazz, I started it up to warm up and discovered the blower fan is not operating. It has been fine until this morning. The car has the VW Climatronic system and everything else seems to work fine. You can hear the air-directing valves working, just no air to direct.
I checked the supply fuse and it was fine. I texted the dealer and said I hoped to have it taxed by Tuesday and would he have a look at it after that He replied "sure no problem I'll get that fixed for you", but it is a bit of a disappointment. There is a relay in the circuit so hopefully, that is all it is because if it needs a new motor it is a dashboard in and out job.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jazzik on December 31, 2022, 06:50:28 PM
Let's just call it a VAG false start...  :(

Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: 123Drive! on December 31, 2022, 07:03:44 PM
Well so much for my new car. I have not had it out on the road yet but this morning, while swapping the original plates back onto the Jazz, I started it up to warm up and discovered the blower fan is not operating. It has been fine until this morning. The car has the VW Climatronic system and everything else seems to work fine. You can hear the air-directing valves working, just no air to direct.
I checked the supply fuse and it was fine. I texted the dealer and said I hoped to have it taxed by Tuesday and would he have a look at it after that He replied "sure no problem I'll get that fixed for you", but it is a bit of a disappointment. There is a relay in the circuit so hopefully, that is all it is because if it needs a new motor it is a dashboard in and out job.

What a pain...my fan motor also went around 70k miles 8 yrs old. Got a used one from eBay and my garage fitted it for, around £80 all in.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 01, 2023, 09:26:11 PM
I have totally taken a scunner to this car. I am wishing now that I had never purchased it. I know that cars have problems and old cars can have more than new ones but the fact I haven't even had it out on the road now and this problem has arisen has just soured me. I had hoped it would have seen my driving days out but now I am thinking about punting it. What is really annoying is the Jazz is still sitting in the drive, now with its original number plates back on, and seems to be saying, "you would have been better paying out that money to get me repaired".
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: 123Drive! on January 01, 2023, 09:35:28 PM
I have totally taken a scunner to this car. I am wishing now that I had never purchased it. I know that cars have problems and old cars can have more than new ones but the fact I haven't even had it out on the road now and this problem has arisen has just soured me. I had hoped it would have seen my driving days out but now I am thinking about punting it. What is really annoying is the Jazz is still sitting in the drive, now with its original number plates back on, and seems to be saying, "you would have been better paying out that money to get me repaired".

That's European cars for you...when you drive Japanese cars for a long time, you take it for granted that all other cars are reliable too. Nevermind hope this is only one off-all car, new or used can have problems. It's a shame it is the bank holidays otherwise would have been fixed earlier.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 01, 2023, 11:16:29 PM
I had decided not to tax it until the start of January but that is the 3rd before DVLA opens. I couldn't even SORN it because once you SORN it you cannot tax it online for five days and the new V5C only arrived on Friday. You have to go to the Post Office to tax it before the five days have elapsed.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 03, 2023, 02:54:09 PM
Taxed the car today now that the DVLA is open for business. £220 instead of the £130 for the Jazz. Ouch.
I was able to go for my first drive, other than the test drive, and I was happy with how it drove. The steering is incredibly light compared to my Mk 1 Jazz. I filled it up with petrol. There is a BP station near me so I have decided, given my limited mileage, to use BP Ultimate 97 RON E5. It is pricey but hopefully, it will give the fuel system and engine a good clean-out.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Skyline84 on January 03, 2023, 04:43:07 PM
Is the blower fan working now, or are you still to have the issue resolved by the dealer?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 03, 2023, 06:37:15 PM
Is the blower fan working now, or are you still to have the issue resolved by the dealer?
I only got the car taxed today so this afternoon I contacted the dealer and he asked me to bring it in there and then (just a small car sales with garage facilities). The guy drove me home. He thinks he has the necessary part and if so I may get the car back tomorrow. If not he will have to order the part.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 03, 2023, 09:20:56 PM
The dealer phoned me at 21:00 to say the blower motor is defective and he has ordered a replacement. He offered to put the car back together, so I could use it until the part arrived, but as it was a pig to get out I told him just to keep the car until it is repaired. It is not as though I need it.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Skyline84 on January 04, 2023, 10:56:08 AM
It's good that they are dealing with the issue promptly. Hopefully that will be the last of any issues that you have with the car.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: 123Drive! on January 04, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
The dealer phoned me at 21:00 to say the blower motor is defective and he has ordered a replacement. He offered to put the car back together, so I could use it until the part arrived, but as it was a pig to get out I told him just to keep the car until it is repaired. It is not as though I need it.

You wouldn't believe it, but my Ibiza 's fan doesn't seen to be working on 1 but 2,3,and 4 is working! I think this happened last time. It's going in next Friday. I have two driving tests on Mon and Tues, lets hope number 2 is still working. Those VAG fans don't last long as this is the 2nd one from new.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 04, 2023, 10:19:24 PM
That is normally the resistor pack, not the fan. When the fan goes nothing works. There are three resistors for settings 1, 2 and 3. 4 is direct 12v.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Julian Okampos on January 07, 2023, 07:09:00 PM
I took delivery of my new (to me) Skoda Fabia this afternoon. The salesman reversed it into the drive for me and by the time I had run him back to that garage in the Jazz, it was too late to fiddle.
I did shuffle it off to the side of my parking area so I could get the Jazz back in off the road but that was it.
I will keep you informed on how I get along with the Fabia (the first VAG car I have owned in 57 years of motoring).
My congrats! Fabia (and Skoda overall) is a really good car  8) But I chose buying 1 of the repairable, salvage and wrecked Toyota Camry from https://abetter.bid/en/car-finder/type-automobiles/make-toyota/model-camry. It is a great way to save money on a reliable and quality car, compared to buying a Skoda Fabia. Toyota Camry is a popular and well-known brand, renowned for its reliability, fuel economy and durability. Purchasing a repairable, salvage or wrecked Toyota Camry from abetter bid gives you the opportunity to buy a vehicle with a great history at a discounted price. Additionally, Toyota Camry models are generally easier to repair than Skoda Fabias, and parts are typically much more readily available. This can save you time and money in the long run, and reduce the hassle associated with repairing your car. All in all, buying a repairable, salvage or wrecked Toyota Camry from the auction offers a great value for money, as well as peace of mind that you’re buying a reliable and quality car.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 07, 2023, 10:15:28 PM
My congrats! Fabia (and Skoda overall) is a really good car  8)
Thanks. I hope my one turns out to be, once I actually get a chance to drive it. So far I have only been able to drive it 10 miles!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: TonyH on January 08, 2023, 10:20:03 AM
Is it the DSG auto box ?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 08, 2023, 11:36:10 AM
No. Manual. I wouldn't touch a DSG with a barge pole. Just the servicing of one would make your eyes water, never mind the risk of buying a secondhand one.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: TonyH on January 08, 2023, 12:01:38 PM
Ah that's interesting - I see a lot about how poor they can be but have friends who've done loads of miles with no bother.
I'm toying with going back to manual but not sure i can after all these years of autos....!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 08, 2023, 12:15:31 PM
My experience with a DSG loan car was the almost impossible slow speed parking without kangarooing.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 08, 2023, 01:07:29 PM
I had 25 years of autos then went back to manual with no problems, other than a manual is a pain in the tonsils in queueing traffic. However, after my first prolonged driving of an auto (three weeks with an automatic Escort rental in California) I was given a shot of a 7.0L Corvette and as I approached the first set of traffic lights it would not stop. Eventually, it did, when it stalled. I had forgotten to depress the clutch! After only three weeks. It takes a lot to stall a 427 cu in V8.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 13, 2023, 03:43:57 PM
It was a nice day today so I decided to check the tyre pressures. Three were a bit up and one was a bit down (I'll keep an eye on that one) but they are now all to the manufacturer's specs. The tyres won't be cheap to replace. They are 205/45 R16, a bit of a step up from my Jazz's 175/65 R14s.
The spare is a wide, fairly low-profile tyre, on a get-you-home steel wheel. it looks like it has never been used. Problem is, you have to lift it right out to check the tyre pressure.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 13, 2023, 04:09:46 PM
I'm sure I've seen flexible extensions to counter that problem.

It stays fixed to the spare and pokes out for pressure checking without needing to remove the spare.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 13, 2023, 06:25:45 PM
I'm sure I've seen flexible extensions to counter that problem.
Thanks. Just ordered this.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163334568274 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163334568274)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 14, 2023, 06:03:43 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 15, 2023, 04:31:40 PM
I got my private registration plates fitted today then went onto the DVLA site and transferred it with them. It is so much easier to do things online with the DVLA. Unfortunately, I will have to wait until tomorrow to inform my insurance but as I am unlikely to be using the car until Thursday, that's not a problem.
What was a problem was getting the old number plates off. Both the RH screws had badly rusted heads and I was unable to see if they were security screws. I removed the front with a pair of pliers but the rear was solid and once I got it turning was turning the plastic insert in the body. I had to resort to the centuries-old, tried and tested method. A hammer and chisel!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 15, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
I don't get why they just screw into thin soft plastic.

When I got mine home I removed their fixings and used those anti-tamper screws, after I'd drilled their holes out a bit and used pseudo rawlplug type plugs to get a better grip.

Then put some waterproof double sided tape on as well.

I feel for anyone who tries to take mine off.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 15, 2023, 06:17:19 PM
They are into Rawlplug-type fixings. But once the one started turning, I was snookered.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 16, 2023, 03:50:22 AM
Ah, yes, a drill them out and replace job.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: TnTkr on January 16, 2023, 05:35:48 AM
I use stainless or nylon screws for mounting the license plates, although the main reason is visual annoyance of the rust. Brass screws would also be a good choice, but those are becoming harder to get nowadays. In Finland the head of the screws must be same colour as licence plate i.e. white either by paint, cap or material itself.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2023, 08:50:06 AM
I use stainless steel screws. I have never capped them and have never been pulled up for them but usually, on UK cars, they are capped with the appropriate colour.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: TnTkr on January 16, 2023, 09:11:33 AM
As stainless holds paint rather badly, so mine are also without paint after one winter. Never been pulled nor noticed in annual inspection, but in theory they should be white.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
That's my car all legal now with personalised plates and insurance notified. All I need is somewhere to go. I will have a 3.4-mile round trip to the vet on Thursday. Mind you, with the frozen snow we have today, I don't fancy the drive with these wide tyres. Wish I still had my four-season tyres for this weather.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 16, 2023, 01:11:53 PM
J10CKO :)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2023, 02:57:04 PM
J10CKO :)
That's not my number!

(https://i.imgur.com/iC2ZROF.jpg)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 16, 2023, 02:58:48 PM
Surely J0 CKO is a show plate as that's not a UK format ?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 16, 2023, 06:23:22 PM
I Photoshop photographs showing my plate so as not to reveal my true registration number.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 17, 2023, 05:07:38 AM
Yes, good idea.

I had an option to obtain a suitable private plate but decided against it. I prefer to be anonymous.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 20, 2023, 07:18:05 PM
It is now 17 days since I filled up with petrol and so far I have driven 17 miles! I have nowhere to go.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: embee on January 20, 2023, 09:46:50 PM
It is now 17 days since I filled up with petrol and so far I have driven 17 miles! I have nowhere to go.
... and plenty of time to get there!  :D
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 29, 2023, 02:40:18 PM
Now that I have been using the car, albeit not a great deal, I realise the Parking Aid is defective. Probably one or more defective sensors. I may get round to getting something done about it but as I have only done 30 miles since buying the car before Christmas I am reluctant to splash out in case the car turns out to be a polished turd.

I have never had rear parking sensors (well I have, but I always referred to them as the bumpers) so I won't miss them.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on January 29, 2023, 02:56:23 PM
I rely on my door mirrors for reversing along with the rear camera.

Parking sensors are OK if your reversing up to a wall. I've had instances on my Civics where I knew there was a post but the sensors didn't pick it up if it wasn't in quite the right place.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on January 29, 2023, 03:07:37 PM
One of the works vans I used to drive had rear parking sensors and if you were reversing between parked cars (something I had to do a lot) they would go off. You never knew if someone had come up behind you or not.
As an aside, I have painted the hinge edges of my black gates and the hinge edges of the posts, white. I got the benefit for the first time today and it makes it easier in daylight and I am sure ten times easier in the dark, the reason for painting them.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 02, 2023, 03:04:20 PM
I was out last night, after dark, for the first time since getting the car and I must say I found the headlights mediocre at best. There was nothing wrong with the beam pattern they were just not very bright (the height control was set correctly for the load in the vehicle).
I also tried the fog lights and you almost have to stand up to notice any difference. They add a bit of light to about 4 ft in front of the car. Thankfully I seldom drive after dark.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: guest9236 on February 02, 2023, 03:42:10 PM
I was out last night, after dark, for the first time since getting the car and I must say I found the headlights mediocre at best. There was nothing wrong with the beam pattern they were just not very bright (the height control was set correctly for the load in the vehicle).
I also tried the fog lights and you almost have to stand up to notice any difference. They add a bit of light to about 4 ft in front of the car. Thankfully I seldom drive after dark.

It’s no good Jocko you’ll just have to go LED  ??


Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on February 02, 2023, 04:29:42 PM
Unfortunately .....

Quote
LED upgrade bulbs can't be classed as road legal because they cannot be E marked or have the British Standard mark. The reason that LED upgrade bulbs can't be E marked is simply because no legislation exists for the use of LED technology in a headlight unit built for halogens.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 02, 2023, 06:52:13 PM
It’s no good Jocko you’ll just have to go LED  ??
No thanks. I will keep the car legal. Have considered :
https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/piaa-xtreme-white-plus-h4 (https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/piaa-xtreme-white-plus-h4)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: guest9236 on February 02, 2023, 09:51:35 PM
It’s no good Jocko you’ll just have to go LED  ??
No thanks. I will keep the car legal. Have considered :
https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/piaa-xtreme-white-plus-h4 (https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/piaa-xtreme-white-plus-h4)

Look pretty impressive  will be interested in your observation should you go down that route.


Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: E27006 on February 03, 2023, 08:32:06 AM
I was out last night, after dark, for the first time since getting the car and I must say I found the headlights mediocre at best. There was nothing wrong with the beam pattern they were just not very bright (the height control was set correctly for the load in the vehicle).
I also tried the fog lights and you almost have to stand up to notice any difference. They add a bit of light to about 4 ft in front of the car. Thankfully I seldom drive after dark.

It’s no good Jocko you’ll just have to go LED  ??
Jacko, have a good look at the headlamp bulbs in your Fabia, I know of a Fabia owner, the headlamps are unusual, instead of the well known two filaments per bulb, one for main, the other for dipped, VW used an electrically-powered  iris / eyelid type of  mechanism to shroud the headlamp bulb to give the main or dipped beam setting.  Examine the system to satisfy yourself the iris mechanism is functioning properly and check the correct bulbs are installed, perhaps the VW bulbs have been substituted for double filament bulbs
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 04, 2023, 02:39:15 PM
have a good look at the headlamp bulbs in your Fabia, I know of a Fabia owner, the headlamps are unusual, instead of the well known two filaments per bulb, one for main, the other for dipped, VW used an electrically-powered  iris / eyelid type of  mechanism to shroud the headlamp bulb to give the main or dipped beam setting.  Examine the system to satisfy yourself the iris mechanism is functioning properly and check the correct bulbs are installed, perhaps the VW bulbs have been substituted for double filament bulbs
I posted an image of the headlight on the Skoda forum and I have been told it is the shutter variety of light unit and not very well thought of. They say I just have to live with it (there was a suggestion I eat more carrots). I don't think you can fit an H4 bulb into the unit. The car has just passed an MOT so the system should be working okay and as I said, the beam pattern is fine, just not particularly bright.

(https://i.imgur.com/LPhJAaN.jpg)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: richardfrost on February 04, 2023, 03:51:50 PM
Get a full set of rallying lights on the front and across the roof. That'll sort you.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on February 04, 2023, 04:30:47 PM
It is now 17 days since I filled up with petrol and so far I have driven 17 miles! I have nowhere to go.

Sounds like me Jocko. This week 2 trips to the vets with poorly cat and 2 supermarket visits. 20 miles in total.

To be fair, all 4 trips would have been problematic without a car - not impossible but quite inconvenient.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 04, 2023, 07:29:57 PM
I have to take two substantial cat boxes and equally substantial cats to the vet every six weeks to get their claws trimmed (house cats). Without a car would require a taxi and a lot of taxi drivers won't consider transporting animals (other than guide dogs), so even that could be an issue. I have now however managed to clock up 50 miles in my first month. Wow, that's only 600 miles a year!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 05, 2023, 10:54:47 AM
Shopping this morning and one thing I am aware of with the Fabia is how small the boot is compared to my Mk1 Jazz. Not much shallower but with huge wheel arch intrusions into the area. I used to get 4 full supermarket bags across the width, but now I only get 3.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on February 05, 2023, 11:29:08 AM
Diet ?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on February 05, 2023, 03:27:56 PM
Harness the cats to a shopping trolley.  . They will soon wear out their claws. No need for claw clipping  visits.  Once fully trained  they can replace the car for supermarket trips. Simples. What could go wrong. ;D
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 15, 2023, 01:09:12 PM
Today, for the first time I checked Trip 2 (I normally monitor Trip 1 which is the single trip memory, Trip 2 is since it was last reset, in my case since refuelling). The "Fibometer" tells me I have managed 29 mpg so far this tank. Obh, obh.
The only saving grace is that all the trips have been short (2 or 3 miles) and in the city.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on February 15, 2023, 01:28:39 PM
Yes, you have to weigh up your journeys and short town trips are mpg killers
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 15, 2023, 01:50:13 PM
I would have been getting 42 - 44 mpg with the Jazz for the same trips. I realise that I am still getting used to the Fabia, it is winter and it is a 1.4L 16-valve twin cam but the numbers are disappointing.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on February 15, 2023, 02:13:50 PM
That is quite a drop.

I wonder what the comparative co2 figures are to see if it expected.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on February 15, 2023, 08:30:10 PM
I wonder what the comparative co2 figures are to see if it expected.
The Jazz was 129g/km whereas the Fabia is 154g/km. The Fabia metalwork seems a lot heavier and the car is about 75 kg heavier. It also has much wider tyres. 205s as against 175s. Plus I ran the Jazz with elevated tyre pressures at 35 psi in my tyres but these being very low profile I use the manufacturer's recommended tyre pressures.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on February 16, 2023, 04:44:55 AM
Those co2 figures are a bit of a mpg giveaway then.

Like me, low mileage, so no big deal ?
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Lord Voltermore on February 16, 2023, 10:32:46 AM
Does bring it into perspective.  When we are lamenting  fuel consumption increases in winter   ,or only getting 68 mpg  instead of 70+ mpg in our mk4's  etc ( and similar woes  with mk 1,2 and 3,'s,  )    we tend to forget how things can be with other cars.  :-[
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on March 01, 2023, 09:52:17 PM
From the picture Jocko, your new motor is the Fabia 3 trim? Isn't that the posh one with cruise control etc.

Have you softened your stance on silver cars? I love a silver motor, never looks dirty! We've two in our household.

Nice little motors the Fabia. I've driven a couple and found them a decent drive and feel solid. The estates are absolutely huge. 
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on March 01, 2023, 10:11:17 PM
It is the Elegance with cruise control, parking sensors (which don't work :( ), heated seats, heated mirrors and the Climatronic HVAC system.
I am growing to the Silver paint. I have only done 140 miles since getting it but it certainly doesn't look dirty.
My wife walked past it in Morrisons car park yesterday, heading for another silver car. She wishes I had bought a yellow one.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on April 01, 2023, 11:42:01 AM
That is me clocked up a staggering 145 miles since filling up with petrol at the turn of the year. I am pleased to say the Fibometer is currently showing 34 mpg which, considering the cold weather and the short trips (quite a few of them 3/4 mile return trips to the local Co-op), is acceptable. The most extended trip I have made is 8 miles in one go. Not as good as I would have expected from the Jazz but I can live with that.

(https://i.imgur.com/f7rjR3P.jpg)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on May 11, 2023, 11:44:19 AM
Refilled the tank for the first time today (last filled up on the 3rd of January). I had covered 275 miles in that time but at an average speed of 14 mph. No wonder the calculated mileage was a disappointing 29.5 mpg. Not a patch on what the Jazz would have returned under the same conditions.
The "Fibometer" was very optimistic at 32.6 mpg.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on May 11, 2023, 01:12:19 PM
Just reflecting on those mpg figures Jocko. The driving you have been doing of late looks pretty similar to my profile. Short journeys in the cold. I do remember getting just over 31 mpg from a tank in my Mk 3 a couple of winters ago. The Fabia is a bit heavier than the Jazz so another factor. I remember when I traded in my Mk5 Golf for a Civic. When cleaning the Civic the roof flexed under the slightest pressure, the Golf was rock solid so a heavier thicker steel plate must have been used. I thought I'd bought a tin can when I first got the Civic!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on May 11, 2023, 01:21:20 PM
Considering your mileage and fuel station visits I don't suppose mpg is high on your list now  :)
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on May 11, 2023, 01:50:07 PM
Considering your mileage and fuel station visits I don't suppose mpg is high on your list now  :)
Not really, but if I had done my research before buying the car, I probably wouldn't have picked this one. I went to see a Fabia Diesel with £30 VED and standard tyes but it had just been sold. So I tried the one I bought not appreciating it was a 16 valve with low profile expensive tyres and £230 VED. The poor mpg is just the fly in the ointment.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on May 11, 2023, 09:01:26 PM
Given how badly diesel cars are suited to low mileage, you definetly chose the better Fabia option. 
 
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on June 13, 2023, 07:50:56 PM
Today, I finally got my first decent run out in the car. 150 miles, mainly dual carriageways and easy country roads. It was also a cracker of a dry day. According to the Fibometer readout, 54 mpg. I know these are always optimistic but I am happy with the numbers I am seeing now.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on June 13, 2023, 10:53:22 PM
That's a cracking mpg figure. I'd be pleased with that. ;)

My MK1 Octavia mpg computer was give or take spot on for the entire 130k of ownership. With luck, yours will be too.

So how did the Fabia compare to the Jazz on a longer run? I expect it's more refined, less NVH.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on June 14, 2023, 10:50:23 AM
So how did the Fabia compare to the Jazz on a longer run? I expect it's more refined, less NVH.
It is a bit more refined. As it was 26°C the aircon was a great treat and the cruise control is nice. The steering is so amazingly light compared to my Mk 1 Jazz and no hunting. I tried pushing it around my favourite tight motorway curve and it seemed okay though I still do not have the confidence I had with the Jazz. There doesn't seem as much side support or maybe the Jazz seats were just a bit narrower.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on June 21, 2023, 09:12:18 PM
Ah, refinement. I love my Jazz, but it is a noisy thing above 60mph for any time period.

Cruise control......lovely. Back in the days when I had to drive 50k mpa for work, cruise was frankly essential. I miss it, but don't need it.

I believe the mk3 Jazz has cruise as standard. Looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on June 22, 2023, 03:26:17 PM
Just got a quote in for my insurance. £366.18. Quite a rise from the £200.35 I paid for the Jazz last July.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: DAN@ADRIAN FLUX on June 22, 2023, 08:47:23 PM
Just got a quote in for my insurance. £366.18. Quite a rise from the £200.35 I paid for the Jazz last July.
Hi,
If you need any help with insurance at all then please feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Dan.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on June 22, 2023, 09:24:01 PM
Dan. I am currently waiting for a quote from Adrian Flux.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on June 23, 2023, 04:34:51 AM
Quite a few years ago, probably a decade, I got quotes from a couple of forum based insurance companies. In both cases the quotes were competitive and they included the companies the quotes came from.

In both cases I was offered 2 companies quotes so I looked up reviews.

I can't remember the others but I do remember one being Eagle Star. At the time the independent reviews, not the forum companies, mostly followed the same pattern of .... nice and easy to setup but forget about claiming, they will fight you tooth and nail.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 11, 2023, 06:27:27 PM
Today was my second top up and I returned 41.2 mpg (calculated). A big improvement and I am happy with that. Considering most of my mileage is in Edinburgh, albeit mostly around the outer areas, it is now approaching what the Jazz was returning in similar circumstances.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on July 11, 2023, 10:11:02 PM
Good figures for city driving for sure. The warmer weather is defo a big help.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 12, 2023, 11:30:46 AM
Still not a patch on my t-rusty Jazz though.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on July 12, 2023, 11:52:52 AM
How long before you're Jazz shopping .....
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 12, 2023, 04:09:16 PM
After the Fabia goes I will be hanging up my keys. Hopefully not for a few more years (it still hasn't done 70,000 miles). Compared to my Mk 1 Jazz the Fabia is quieter, more comfortable and nicer to drive, though the boot is tiny and I know I will miss the "Magic seats".
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on July 12, 2023, 04:42:41 PM
Similar here. This Jazz will be my last car.

Getting expensive and road manners aren't what they used to be. Too many idiots.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on July 13, 2023, 05:57:46 PM
A pal and I had a morbid conversation a year or so back about whether you would know which car will be your last.

I think my Jazz Mk4 is the last car I will own and I used to change my cars a bit more than most (for a large chunk of my working life I got a mileage allowance from my job and I used that as a car fund).

I just don't have any desire to change the Jazz - I certainly don't need to with my tiny mileage.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 14, 2023, 06:42:21 PM
I certainly don't need to with my tiny mileage.
I know. I filled up for the second time since my first full tank on the 3rd of January - after 628 miles!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on July 14, 2023, 08:55:30 PM
I filled up for the second time since my first full tank on the 3rd of January - after 628 miles!
You'll be a while collecting enough green shields stamps to be of any use then!  :D
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 14, 2023, 09:00:00 PM
Remember the days when you got soup mugs? My daughter worked in the local filling station and every time someone got one and didn't want it she brought it home. We had enough to start a soup kitchen,
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on July 14, 2023, 09:23:35 PM
Actualy, no. I didn't pass my test until 1989!  :D Think they were out of use by then. I just remember my dad collecting them years ago.

BTW, have you remembered to tell your insurers you do <2k mpa? It could have a positive impact on your premium and save you a few quid.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Kremmen on July 15, 2023, 04:27:15 AM
There used to be a lower limit where low mileage can have a detrimental effect.

My broker friend told me it was ~4k miles a year but that doesn't seem to be an issue lately.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 15, 2023, 04:41:33 PM
I was currently on 4K a year but when I phoned up to haggle my price for the coming year's insurance (which starts in a week's time), after getting it down a bit I asked if reducing my mileage to 1.5K would reduce it further. The girl checked and said it made no difference. So I left it at 4K a year.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: embee on July 15, 2023, 06:22:32 PM
I've always found that quotes for mileages of 4, 6 or 10k have been very little different,  maybe a few ££ a year but not significant in the big scheme of things.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 15, 2023, 08:24:40 PM
When I was running back and forward, from Kirkcaldy to Edinburgh (before Mum passed), I started off at 12K then put it up to 16K and it made very little difference.
I had to do a wee repair today. The exhaust started wuffling and it was the joint between the cat and the middlebox. The joint is just a spiral sleeve with a clamp on either end. The original clamps had rusted away and someone had replaced them with jubilee clips, which had also rusted away. I fitted a couple of stainless steel clamps which should see the car out. The exhaust system is actually the original, from new. How you can tell is if the middle and rear box are joined by a fixed pipe it is factory fitted. Replacements are joined between the boxes with a second sleeve.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Westy36 on July 15, 2023, 08:51:25 PM
Wouldn't surprise me it was on its original exhaust. My mk1 Octi was still on original exhaust, clutch, rear brake shoes etc at 160k. Old VAG stuff was good quality, and I think Skoda quality control was very tight early on given they had an reputation that needed improving.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 16, 2023, 09:41:04 AM
The Fabia uses the same parts as the Polo and the Ibiza.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: embee on July 16, 2023, 09:43:53 AM
My old Yaris was on its original exhaust at 100k mls and 21yrs when I sold it.
Back in the day leaded fuel shortened exhaust lifetime dramatically because it contained "scavengers" which used halogens to combine with the lead to stop it getting deposited. The problem was that they tended to make stuff like hydrochloric acid with the condensation,  which rotted the exhaust from the inside.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on July 16, 2023, 11:40:55 AM
Yes - I remember replacing exhausts was a regular event. I can't remember when I last had to do it.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on July 20, 2023, 12:38:48 PM
Just found out my Jazz has been repaired and is back on the road. It was put in for an MOT in February, failed on a far shorter list than when I put it in in December, had the repairs carried out and is now MOTd, taxed, and I assume, back on the road. Don't know if I am happy or disappointed!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on July 20, 2023, 01:23:58 PM
I wonder if this is a consequence of still high prices for second hand cars? I watch a You Tube Channel called High Peak Autos (he's a young used car dealer) and the day of the really cheap "banger" seems to have gone.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: shufty on July 20, 2023, 02:35:24 PM
...Try Chops Garage as well. He has more of the cheaper end of the market and seems to care more than most second hand car dealers.

As for prices some cars seem to be cheaper than you'd expect and others way more expensive than would appear to be viable!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: peteo48 on July 20, 2023, 04:49:07 PM
I'll give him a watch. Prices are strange. It's still the case that big expensive cars depreciate heavily but the takeaway from these channels is the high value for, say, a 15 year old Fiesta if it's in half decent condition with an MOT. In my mind I'm thinking £500 absolute tops but give it a 12 month MOT and tidyish bodywork the likely price is comfortably over £1500 - sometimes more.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Skyline84 on July 20, 2023, 05:00:08 PM
Just found out my Jazz has been repaired and is back on the road. It was put in for an MOT in February, failed on a far shorter list than when I put it in in December, had the repairs carried out and is now MOTd, taxed, and I assume, back on the road. Don't know if I am happy or disappointed!

At least the car was saved from the breakers/scrap yard and lives to fight another day. You may see it on the road in the future!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on August 23, 2023, 01:15:09 PM
Today I had a morning trip across the city to the Western General. A round trip of 19.5 miles, with 20 and 30 mph limits. Traffic was busy but according to my Fibometer, I managed 40 8 mpg. Delighted with that.
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: Jocko on September 22, 2023, 07:57:17 PM
Today I topped up the tank for the third time since getting the car. Calculated figure of 38.3 mpg but the average speed was just 18 mph for the 344 miles covered. City driving for you. I have now done 1,000 miles since buying the car last Christmas!
Title: Re: Skoda Fabia.
Post by: fashionphotography on September 23, 2023, 12:14:20 PM
On the subject of S/H values i had a Subaru Forester Auto before my Jazz . loved the Forester but beeing a 2001 model insurance and tax was killing us . i paid £950 for the scubie had it 5 years and sold it for £1150 which i thought was damn good . it was very clean example . but looking on Ebay lately they are fetching mad prices for the mk 1's i could get £2500 for it now easy if i still had it . even my Jazz which i thought id paid over the odds at £1500 could make about £2000 now  two and a half years later