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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - 2020 => Topic started by: guest7675 on May 18, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
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Hi any thoughts on between these two i have heard the handling really rolls round corners on the mokka so i think the jazz sport would be much better.
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I have a sport so no contest on many levels.
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The 0-100 is close on both, but the Jazz is doing it on a non turbo car, which I prefer for longer term reliability. The fuel economy should be better on the Jazz.
I like the Jazz Sport CVT, its such a smooth drive around town. At the end of the day you have to road test both. I bought my Jazz Sport CVT on the test drive and I was amazed when I put my foot down hard on the dual carriageway, the mid range power surprises a lot of people.
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I bought my Jazz Sport CVT on the test drive and I was amazed when I put my foot down hard on the dual carriageway, the mid range power surprises a lot of people.
Try using the 'S' mode you'll be even more surprised.
Vic.
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After questions about an ABARTH and Mokka are you unhappy with your Jazz? Too much room in it maybe. :-)
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After questions about an ABARTH and Mokka are you unhappy with your Jazz? Too much room in it maybe. :-)
No not got a jazz as yet but the sport ticks all the box's i had a honda civic many years ago and it was great had the crx engine in that so it was very quick but i what space due to my disability and need something sensible but sporty as well.
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After owning 9 Corsas and 2 Astras, and 2 Jazzes, my money is on the Jazz outlasting any Vauxhall. I wouldn't own a Vauxhall beyond the warranty period. I took the Jazz 150,000 miles beyond the warranty.
I have had a bit of fun with the S mode on my Hybrid Jazz CVT too at the traffic light grand prix too.
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After questions about an ABARTH and Mokka are you unhappy with your Jazz? Too much room in it maybe. :-)
I find the extra power of the 1.5 more than enough for everyday driving and any overtaking. Quite a few drivers don't like being overtaken by a jazz, but when they try it on and I throttle up and go by them I get all sorts of funny looks (how can a Jazz go like that). I tried the sport mode and it made the engine rev which off course is what you need to get the best power over 4000 rpm. Pumping the throttle once on acceleration in any mode makes a big difference.
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After questions about an ABARTH and Mokka are you unhappy with your Jazz? Too much room in it maybe. :-)
I find the extra power of the 1.5 more than enough for everyday driving and any overtaking. Quite a few drivers don't like being overtaken by a jazz, but when they try it on and I throttle up and go by them I get all sorts of funny looks (how can a Jazz go like that). I tried the sport mode and it made the engine rev which off course is what you need to get the best power over 4000 rpm. Pumping the throttle once on acceleration in any mode makes a big difference.
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Im after getting the jazz sport very soon in white pearl can you guys post some pic of your sport by the way have you seen overseas some jazz have a sport badge on rear and some with rs on the front but i would rather not have this. ;D
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I am sure you will enjoy a 1.5 CVT, it is a vast improvement on the pre facelift models.
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Cannot comment on comparison between the two as not driven jazz sport but Our other car is a Mokka 1.4 turbo auto, not overly interested in speed but it certainly shifts when foot is planted, had it for 2.5 years now and has behaved faultlessly, returns upper 30 to lower 40 mpg depending on weather.auto nearly as seamless as cvt
Extremely comfortable, probably the most comfy car have driven and very easy to get into and out off. Quiet a bit bigger outside but Boot not as usable as our 2004 jazz.
Would have considered HRV but Vauxhall’s had some cracking deals on (still do)and the Mokka made better financial sense.
Overall delighted with the Mokka and will consider another one when PCP ends.
There is a Mokka forum http://www.mokkaownersclub.co.uk you may be interested in
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I am sure a Mokka or similar is excellent if you want a car that is small inside and is on stilts. My daughter has a Renault Captur, no bigger inside than the Clio it is based on, it is just styled to look like a bigger car, like most SUV lookalikes.
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I am deviating as I do not have a Sport nor do I have a Mokka. BUT due to health issues we have been looking for something to replace our Jazz EX I shift that we could afford. We were then convinced to go down the Motability route. The only Honda contenders to give a bit more height in which to make getting in and out easier was an HRV or a CRV. The initial payment on the HRV was £1999 as only a a SE CVT was listed and the CRV auto was £2,399. A fair chunk to pay upfront. So we chose a FORD. Horror of horrors as we had always decried Mr Fords products. It is a Ecosport automatic with a tiddly 1ltr turbo charged engine. It has now done 299 miles. I must admit to being impressed. It does not roll as the experts claim. It is comfortable, my Wife can get into it without pain and falling down into the seat as the Jazz. It is more thirsty but that hopefully will improve. Without using bags of throttle it copes with everyday traffic and when I have used the loud pedal it does get up and go. The gear change is smooth but I have noticed the fact that it is a three cylinder engine which does feel a little lumpy sometimes. It is reasonably well finished and evidently a great improvement on the earlier model made in India. Unfortunately like all modern cars full of electronic gizmos which means a huge learning curve.
If money was not a consideration I might have gone for the HRV but unfortunately it is.
When we bought the Jazz s/h, there was a fair bit of salesperson pressure, the Ford salesman was a totally different kettle of fish bearing in mind the dealer was selling a car with a huge chunk taken off by Ford and so his profit margin was no doubt affected. He was helpful, considerate and incredibly patient dealing with two old farts.
Of course the one factor above all is that I do not have do anything except keep it clean and put petrol in it.
I am sorry to say this means I am deserting the Honda fold.
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Hi is the ecosport you have the powershift auto with steering paddles as that is like a twin clutch semi auto as to the vauxhall mokka the auto does not have ********** paddles which makes the vauxhall very out of date.Now some say that the automatics with paddleshift are a waste of time but i like them to use sometimes and with the vw dsg i had in a skoda fabia vrs it was better than a manual and quicker.
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I thought the seat height on the honda jazz was pretty high for getting in and out and cars like ford focus were lower is that not right.
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Warning robust Aussie language used!
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Yes the Ecosport does have flappy paddles but I am waiting to get a few more miles on the clock before I start experimenting. The Jazz does have paddles and I did use them a lot especially on a very difficult run in onto the A30 where I could hold 2nd gear and get a shift on.
I was concerned about the 'auto' box on the Ford which by repute had problems but I assured that this model the problems have been sorted, if they haven't it ain't my problem.
Mr Ford and Motability will have to sort it out, however it appears this model is much improved over the older one.
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Definitely +1 to this, the interior space on some of these cars is rubbish
I am sure a Mokka or similar is excellent if you want a car that is small inside and is on stilts. My daughter has a Renault Captur, no bigger inside than the Clio it is based on, it is just styled to look like a bigger car, like most SUV lookalikes.
...and if you are buying a used car that's out of warranty, definitely +1 to this
After owning 9 Corsas and 2 Astras, and 2 Jazzes, my money is on the Jazz outlasting any Vauxhall. I wouldn't own a Vauxhall beyond the warranty period. I took the Jazz 150,000 miles beyond the warranty.
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I have no qualms about owning a Vauxhall. I had two, back to back, between 1990 and 2007. The firsts had done 186,000 miles when I sold it, the second 183,000. I personally did over 90,000 miles with each of them (185,000 in total). Neither one required much more than wear and tear items
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After owning 9 Corsas and 2 Astras, and 2 Jazzes, my money is on the Jazz outlasting any Vauxhall. I wouldn't own a Vauxhall beyond the warranty period. I took the Jazz 150,000 miles beyond the warranty.
I used to have Vauxhall company cars changed every three years even though they were company cars I looked after them, every one I had started to give problems once they had done about 80K they were always in for repairs for something minor and some major faults, I swore I would never ever have one when I eventually bought my own cars again.
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I used to have Vauxhall company cars changed every three years even though they were company cars I looked after them, every one I had started to give problems once they had done about 80K they were always in for repairs for something minor and some major faults, I swore I would never ever have one when I eventually bought my own cars again.
To be fair, if you're doing minimum 80,000 miles in them in 3 years, that's a hard life for a car. On my old company car scheme, they would have been renewed early with that sort of mileage.
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Motorway use is easy on cars, it is the local running about that gives them a hard life.
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Motorway use is easy on cars, it is the local running about that gives them a hard life.
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Local mileage, short runs, and stop-start driving are hard on vehicles. IMHO motorway miles are actually good for a car. What makes ozzies Jazz even more impressive is that it was a driving school car.
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As to getting in and out of a honda jazz its a great car for elderly and disabled due to height of seat i know there are higher seated cars but with my disability its hard to go too high.
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I have no qualms about owning a Vauxhall. I had two, back to back, between 1990 and 2007. The firsts had done 186,000 miles when I sold it, the second 183,000. I personally did over 90,000 miles with each of them (185,000 in total). Neither one required much more than wear and tear items
I'll dare bet neither of them had the Easytronic gearbox Jocko.
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No. They both had standard GM Hydraulic automatic transmissions with Torque Converters. The first (Carlton) was 3 speed and the second (Cavalier) was 4 speed.
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I agree about the Jazz being very good for height of seats BUT unfortunately not high enough for me or my Wife. The Ford appears to fit our needs. I would have preferred to remain with the Honda breed but as I explained the upfront payments for the HRV or CRV were just too much. I am at the stage where my driving is dependent upon the DVLA who appear to change the rules every time I apply for my three year licence. If they decided I can no longer drive the upfront payment could be lost in less than two years time.
Sadly, the Jazz has to go, I, yesterday as the result of an interested? buyer managed to get my local garage to do an urgent MOT to get the sale. The old MOT expired July. Now the time waster has lost interest. Our Jazz with 52145miles on the clock ( reg Oct 2010) is in excellent condition and this is a tribute to Honda. Whether or not being built at Swindon has anything to do with it I know not. Certainly the reliability is second to none.
I did look at a Mokka but was somewhat put off by the ( in my opinion) flashy interior. It did appear smaller inside than the Ford. I always refused to do less than a 5 mile each way trip. As to longevity my force had Vauxhalls and considering they had up to six drivers a day and spent their life crawling one minute and high speed the next they did well. The Hillman Avengers were just as good one had 185000 miles on the clock when it was sold ( a new engine was fitted prior to sale). Sadly the Montego's were not so reliable.
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Having watched the Aussie film re the CVT box, would it be true to say that the CVT should be better than the manual in the 0 to 60 figures, since the engine is always revving at the optimum speed and there are no delays through manual gearchanging?
All my Jazz cars have been CVT and I have desire to return to manual.
Like others have said, the motoring correspondents just have no idea how to use it effectively.
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All my Jazz cars have been CVT and I have desire to return to manual.
Did you miss a "no" out of that sentence? My current Jazz is my first CVT, there is no way I will go back to a manual gearbox or an Atkinson engine!
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My apologies Skyrider, yes I did miss out the 'no'.
I have now got used to the Atkinson cycle and if it gives a significant improvement in mpg, which I believe it does, then I can live with it, it just needs a little anticipation!
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My apologies Skyrider, yes I did miss out the 'no'.
I have now got used to the Atkinson cycle and if it gives a significant improvement in mpg, which I believe it does, then I can live with it, it just needs a little anticipation!
The slight rise in fuel consumption ( so small In the overall cost of running a car it is insignificant ) is well worth it. I think a drive of a 1.5 CVT would change your mind! I can assure you the car is transformed with progress much smoother, also the facelift improvements to the ride and handling are considerable.
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When i get the jazz sport i would like to send photo on here from my phone can anyone tell me how to do it.
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When i get the jazz sport i would like to send photo on here from my phone can anyone tell me how to do it.
First you must post your photos on a site like Imgur or Flickr. You then copy the Direct Link from that site.
You then open the Insert Image icon among the post reply options and paste the copied link between the middle square brackets, (img]paste link[img)
(https://i.imgur.com/pwXWTVG.jpg)
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When i get the jazz sport i would like to send photo on here from my phone can anyone tell me how to do it.
First you must post your photos on a site like Imgur or Flickr. You then copy the Direct Link from that site.
You then open the Insert Image icon among the post reply options and paste the copied link between the middle square brackets, (img]paste link[img)
(https://i.imgur.com/pwXWTVG.jpg)
I will give that a go when i get the car although im not a show off.
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When i get the jazz sport i would like to send photo on here from my phone can anyone tell me how to do it.
First you must post your photos on a site like Imgur or Flickr. You then copy the Direct Link from that site.
You then open the Insert Image icon among the post reply options and paste the copied link between the middle square brackets.
Alternatively, you can just use the attach option to attach a photo to your reply. Either way, you might need to use an image resize app on the phone to shrink the photo down to a reasonable size (eg 1366 x 768 resolution).
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How to add pictures to your posts:
https://clubjazz.org/forum/index.php?topic=884.0
The Mokka being a crossover would be very different to the Jazz. I believe the Mokka is a GM Korea product, even if made in Europe, so probably very different to other Vauxhalls...for better or worse.
Interesting that Vauxhall have both the Mokka and Crossland X occupying the same segment. Given the time it takes to develop cars, I suspect the Crossland project was started before the Mokka went on sale or at least very early in the lifecycle.