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Reliability.
« on: February 21, 2018, 04:48:10 PM »
Given a link to this US site on another forum. Worth a look.
https://www.truedelta.com/

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 05:24:19 PM »
I know Honda have a good reputation here, but I wonder how the US cars' reliability relates to the Japan/China/Swindon built cars?

In fact, where are the US-spec cars built?

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »
They appear to have a few plants in the States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants
But none building the Jazz/Fit. Must get them from China.

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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 06:26:18 PM »

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 09:08:02 PM »
I'm on Honda number 5 - no trouble with any of them and all were second hand. I have also had 3 Nissans (although none recently) and found them bullet proof as well.

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 10:22:58 PM »
Before I got the Jazz I had an 85 Carlton, a 92 Cavalier and a 01 Volvo S40, and they were all bullet proof. The two Vauxhalls had almost 400,00 miles between them, when passed on, and not a problem at all. I wouldn't have parted with the Cavalier except my wife spotted the Volvo and fell in love with it. I gave the Cavalier to my nephew, who ran it for a couple more years before the rust bug got to it.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 10:21:59 AM »
On the other side of the spectrum my two most unreliable cars were a VW Golf 1.9 TDI and, many years ago, a Fiat 128. Some wag told me that FIAT stood for "Fix it again Tommy!"

I only ever owned one Vauxhall. A 1987 Cavalier - great car and very reliable until it got stolen from the approach at Newton le Willows station and written off in a police chase involving a helicopter apparently!

Had a couple of Fords - middling reliability. Annoying little problems rather than anything major.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 02:34:51 PM »
I only ever owned one Vauxhall. A 1987 Cavalier - great car and very reliable until it got stolen

I've had a couple of Vauxhalls, my first one got nicked off the drive. Silver Calibra 4x4, first I knew about it was a Policeman banging on the door at 8 in the morning to see why I hadn't paid for the £15 petrol I just put in. He lost interest once he realised it was stolen.

Turned up ringed on a garage forecourt 6 months later.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 03:39:40 PM »
I lied earlier - I owned 2 Vauxhalls. I had a 1.8 Carlton back in the early 90s. Bit under powered as it only had the 1.8 engine.

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 04:07:42 PM »
My Carlton was the 1.8 auto. Never found it particularly under-powered, but I had come from a long line of old bangers so didn't have much of a baseline to judge it on. I must say, I loved the RWD. The Cavalier I replaced it with felt distinctly uncouth after the Carlton, and it was the CDi, with all the toys.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2018, 05:49:33 PM »
I had 30 years of company cars. Almost all were brand new and I kept them for 3 years  and did around 60k miles..
Ford: reliable
Volvo : reliable
Audi: not very reliable.
Rover (3 800s over 5 years  no choice): awful. Barely lasted 6 months before another fault..Engines. clutch, exhausts, electrics. POC.
Mercedes: not very reliable.
Then privately :
Jaguar: not very reliable.
BMW: some faults
Audi - not very reliable.
Toyota : 100% reliable.


Honda Jazz (to date) : 100% reliable.

Not much has changed: the unreliable ones then still are. (except Rover  of course)

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 08:33:46 PM »
My other half ran a Rover 218 turbodiesel for 60-odd thousand business miles, R8 shape with the Peugeot-Citroen XUD engine. It was utterly reliable, and never required anything but service parts and consumables. Great car.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 09:38:28 PM »
I had 30 years of company cars. Almost all were brand new and I kept them for 3 years  and did around 60k miles..
Ford: reliable
Volvo : reliable
Audi: not very reliable.
Rover (3 800s over 5 years  no choice): awful. Barely lasted 6 months before another fault..Engines. clutch, exhausts, electrics. POC.
Mercedes: not very reliable.
Then privately :
Jaguar: not very reliable.
BMW: some faults
Audi - not very reliable.
Toyota : 100% reliable.


Honda Jazz (to date) : 100% reliable.

Not much has changed: the unreliable ones then still are. (except Rover  of course)

Audi and Mercedes usually do pretty badly in long term reliability tests - your experience definitely bears that out. You can't go wrong with Japanese in my experience.

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2018, 06:14:58 AM »
My brother's previous BMW M3 was a nightmare. Niggle faults every couple of months. What was really frightening was the repair costs. He used an independent BMW garage, which was cheaper than the main dealer, but even then it was costing £600 - £800 a pop. The last time he had a warning light come on, then reset itself, he traded it in that weekend before it had a chance to return!

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Re: Reliability.
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 03:55:10 PM »
They appear to have a few plants in the States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Honda_assembly_plants
But none building the Jazz/Fit. Must get them from China.

Mexico I believe.

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