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New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:59:00 PM »
Just wondering if anyone has bought the new  1.5 vtec SPORT. or had a test drive.
What does it drive like, with 130 BHP ??

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 07:17:09 AM »
Not sure it’s available yet, the Honda website has a “coming soon” publicity splash for it ...
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/jazz/overview.html
... but when you click through to the main Jazz website ...
http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/jazz-2016/specifications.html
... you just get the old specs and prices.

rogbro

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 12:03:56 PM »
I was in my local dealers, enquiringly about a new EX. Asked if you can get it with the 1.5 vtec engine. No.
Only the Sport version, and the salesman proceeded to tell me all about it.  Came away with a brochure, after Christmas I said.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 02:28:55 PM »
I'm probably repeating myself here but why 1.5 when they've just bought out a 1.0 129 ps turbo engine for the new Civic. It has low CO2 as well.

I do realise that there is a debate as to whether small turbo charged engines are indeed the future but Honda have just bought out exactly that so I genuinely don't follow the thinking here.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 03:46:04 PM »
Some people don't like/want small turbo engines as they are highly stressed, so I suppose offering what the market wants is the path to success. Lots of new Jazz owners, here in the UK, are "more experienced" motorists. In markets where the Jazz demographic is a bit younger, the turbo will be lapped up.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2017, 06:31:46 PM »
Some people don't like/want small turbo engines as they are highly stressed, so I suppose offering what the market wants is the path to success. Lots of new Jazz owners, here in the UK, are "more experienced" motorists. In markets where the Jazz demographic is a bit younger, the turbo will be lapped up.

Don't want the scrotes getting interested in Jazz, don't want too much performance as you won't be able to park them safely (especially if they have keyless technology).
Some people will only consider you an expert if they agree with your point of view or advice,  when you give them advice they don't like they consider you an idiot

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 10:46:16 AM »
When Honda were building the second generation Jazz at Swindon, alongside the UK market production line Honda were building a 1.5 engined version for South Africa, what was a bit like rubbing salt in the wound was that it was being fitted with a proper automatic transmission.
As I understand it when this was brought up, the excuse was that the 1.5 engine did not meet EU emissions. Is this new 1.5 a 'new' engine or have they just fudged around with the existing unit.
Also was or is the 1.5 unit available in the Antipodes along with the USA?

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 11:18:17 AM »
For most of my motoring the current engines are fine. If I did a lot of motorway work I'd want more power. I guess the 1.5 will widen the customer base a bit.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 01:36:18 PM »
When Honda were building the second generation Jazz at Swindon, alongside the UK market production line Honda were building a 1.5 engined version for South Africa, what was a bit like rubbing salt in the wound was that it was being fitted with a proper automatic transmission.
As I understand it when this was brought up, the excuse was that the 1.5 engine did not meet EU emissions. Is this new 1.5 a 'new' engine or have they just fudged around with the existing unit.
Also was or is the 1.5 unit available in the Antipodes along with the USA?
I would imaging it is a derivative of the L15Z range of Honda engines, used in many vehicles since 2014. Engines tend to have extremely long runs due to the cost and complexity of design and development. Like the BMC A series engine, produced from 1951 - 2000 or the B series from 1954 to 1980. Or the Ford Kent, from 1959 - 2002.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 04:24:52 PM »
As I understand it when this was brought up, the excuse was that the 1.5 engine did not meet EU emissions. Is this new 1.5 a 'new' engine or have they just fudged around with the existing unit.
Also was or is the 1.5 unit available in the Antipodes along with the USA?
My guess is that it will be the 1.5 litre engine as in the HR-V, perhaps slightly de-rated. The HR-V's engine is a big contrast to the 1.3 in the Mk 3 Jazz. Combined with the CVT transmission it's a very smooth motor without the Atkinson cycle tweak.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 06:39:54 PM »
Lets have a survey about the £ Honda UK will impose on customers for this version of Jazz Sport ...
My estimate would be + £1.5k
Will it be popular 4% of sales

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 09:42:02 PM »
My guess is that it will be the 1.5 litre engine as in the HR-V, perhaps slightly de-rated. The HR-V's engine is a big contrast to the 1.3 in the Mk 3 Jazz. Combined with the CVT transmission it's a very smooth motor without the Atkinson cycle tweak.
Indeed, I've just found "a responsive 130PS 1.5 litre i-VTEC engine" mentioned here http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/new/coming-soon/jazz/overview.html. However, we can't be 100% sure at this stage that Honda haven't changed the behaviour at the lower end of the revs without changing the headline max horsepower.  I would roughly expect the fuel economy of the 1.5 Jazz if it's an unchanged HR-V motor to be mid way between the 1.3 Jazz and HR-V.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2017, 05:05:57 PM »
Price .  I got quoted exactly the same price, for an EX. And the 1.5 Sport. £18,215 on the road,
with a 5 year service pack.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2017, 05:54:16 PM »
My wife listens to Classic FM. I've heard 2 adverts for the new Honda Jazz Sport today on that channel.

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Re: New Honda Jazz. November 2017
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2017, 03:46:50 PM »
My wife listens to Classic FM. I've heard 2 adverts for the new Honda Jazz Sport today on that channel.
Interesting - it's not a channel for boy racers!

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