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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk1 2002-2008 => Topic started by: AlexWhite on May 22, 2023, 10:27:23 PM
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Hi all. My aircon is pretty.rubbish, not cold at all. How can I get it working better? Does something need changing? Appreciate any advice.
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Most likely needs regassing , I had a mobile air conditioning specialist to come and check mine at home Total cost including regassing for the R134A gas should be about £70
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Does it blow very cold when properly working? Or just a degree below lukewarm?
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Does it blow very cold when properly working? Or just a degree below lukewarm?
Very cold
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Noticed these offers on Groupon. Any of them a fit for my 2004 MK1 Jazz?
https://ibb.co/TrFhxnd
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Your car is suitable but how competent they are is anyone’s guess
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Which one of those do.i go for?
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I have my Fabia booked into my local Kwik Fit to get a recharge tomorrow afternoon. £64.95 though.
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Ask around on your trading estate the garages usually have ac specialist come in to sorttheir customers AC issues
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Went to Kwik Fit and they recharged my air con. The guy told me there were no leaks but it wasn't blowing cold air. I asked if they had reset the Climatronic unit error code and he said everything is okay. He gave me a card for an air-con specialist and sent me on my way with no charge.
As I pulled out I had to stop at a set of traffic lights so I interrogated the unit, reset the code and carried on home. The air certainly felt cold. On reaching my garage I dug out my digital indoor/outdoor thermometer, Stuck the outdoor probe into the face-level vent and the temperature plummeted to 4°C. It looks like I have won a watch.
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Went to Kwik Fit and they recharged my air con. The guy told me there were no leaks but it wasn't blowing cold air. I asked if they had reset the Climatronic unit error code and he said everything is okay. He gave me a card for an air-con specialist and sent me on my way with no charge.
As I pulled out I had to stop at a set of traffic lights so I interrogated the unit, reset the code and carried on home. The air certainly felt cold. On reaching my garage I dug out my digital indoor/outdoor thermometer, Stuck the outdoor probe into the face-level vent and the temperature plummeted to 4°C. It looks like I have won a watch.
Sounds like typical KwikFit incompetence, for once you came out the winner
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Best to go to an aircon specialist. Places like kwik fit ,ATS etc may just be a tyre fitter who had a half day course on using the aircon recharging machine.
Unfortunately in an older car a regas might not last long before it leaks out again. They are meant to check for leaks, but a slow one may be missed. If they find its leaking they cannot legally top it up knowing it will only last for the summer. . It must either be repaired (which may be expensive) or do without air con.
On a more positive note you could try replacing the cabin pollen filter. If its clogged it may reduce the efficiency of the aircon (if its working at all) They are not expensive and may need changing anyway. Its normally an easy DIY job.
IF you decide to go for the groupon ATS offer I'd go for the basic regas, £41.99 The antibac treatment may not be needed ,especially if you change the pollen filter. If you think its necessary Halfords do a diy deodorant/anti bacterial aerosol for £5.99. (and one for £20 :o )
Air from the vents should feel significantly colder if the aircon is working. It also feels 'different' ,dehumidified I suppose. If it only feels slightly colder than ambient thats just the result of being fan blown air.
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I had smelly air con on my Volvo and you know when it is needing anti-bac treatment. I used a Comma product and it worked great.
I used to service low-temperature refrigerant systems(Polycold -98°C) in a former life and there isn't much to it. Leak checking is just a case of evacuating the system, sealing it off from the vacuum pump and checking the rise in pressure over a given time. If you have a leak you can put a dye in to hopefully find it, though we used a Helium leak detector as we needed it for the Hi-vac equipment we maintained.
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I drove a 2010 Corsa yesterday which still had working aircon. I know it has never been regasses from new.
On the Halfords web site they sell air con leak sealer for £20 but to use it you also need a fill trigger and gauge (£20) and a cylinder of R-134a gas. This is £60 but with a £10 refund on the empty cylinder. The ad claims this may be enough gas to regas 2 -3 cars,( or one car 2 - 3 times ;) ) The option is only available on older cars using R134a gas (pre 2017 I believe)
There may be downsides. The sealer may not work on some leaks, and you could clog up the aircon system permanently. And as such would probably not be offered or recommended by most air con specialists. But it may be worth a try on an older car. I have never used it,so its at your own risk, but I will bear it in mind myself if the Corsa loses its aircon. In theory you could fix a leak and have up to 3 regassings for an overall cost not much more than one professional regas that might also leak away.
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Your car is suitable but how competent they are is anyone’s guess
I had my jazz re gassed at the weekend at ATS works just fine.
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Great result.
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I might go for the ATS offer. An issue I have on my MK1 is that when I turn on aircon, I don't hear the compressor or fans kick-in. I heard when gas is very low it doesn't turn on is this true?
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I might go for the ATS offer. An issue I have on my MK1 is that when I turn on aircon, I don't hear the compressor or fans kick-in. I heard when gas is very low it doesn't turn on is this true?
It is true.
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thanks for confirming @ukjim
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I've also had an issue. I went to halford and did the free AC test and it looks like there is a leak. So what should I do about it? The car wasn't used too much for a year or two before I bought it. Is it worth fixing? Do I just go to a mechanic and ask them? Does a consultation cost money or only if they fix it?
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Most likely the condenser which will have probably disintegrated over time. New ones can be had from eBay for about £60, about 1.5 to 2 hours for fixing and then a regas.
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Most likely the condenser which will have probably disintegrated over time. New ones can be had from eBay for about £60, about 1.5 to 2 hours for fixing and then a regas.
Thanks that sounds reasonable, if I take it to a garage will they charge for diagnosing too? I've never visited the mechanic yet so not sure how the process works to be honest
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thanks for confirming @ukjim
Got mine re-gassed today thanks
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I got it looked at, the condenser was indeed leaking, but there's also a hole in the low pressure pipe. They said they can't source this part? Is there any where I can find this part?
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This -
Autodoc - https://www.autodoc.co.uk/ridex/8289181
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Just had this done on my crosstar under warranty. Glad I didn't have to pay for it.
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I went through this a few years ago. The key thing is to leave the Aircon on throughout the year. Keeps the seals moist which helps prevent any gas leakage. Yes, it will reduce the MPG but worth it when you consider the cost and hassle of repairing/regassing the system. Don't forget demisting that big screen in winter and keeping the car interior dry.
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The key thing is to leave the Aircon on throughout the year. Keeps the seals moist which helps prevent any gas leakage. Yes, it will reduce the MPG but worth it when you consider the cost and hassle of repairing/regassing the system. Don't forget demisting that big screen in winter and keeping the car interior dry.
I never switch the aircon off on any car that has had it. Reduction in mpg is easily recovered by anticipation and gentle acceleration.
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I used the ATS deal a couple years ago or so. Never again.
A/C previously was very cold but noticed it wasn't really working so got booked in.
They did their thing, and tbh it felt colder for a few but nowhere near as cold as it had been. I should have taken it back but wasn't able to.
Left it a while but took it to a local garage and yes, condenser had a hole or two.
Fitted a Nissens one and also did the mesh mod to protect the new condenser whilst at it.
All good now.