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Honda Jazz Forums => Honda Jazz Mk4 2020 - => Topic started by: jamjar on June 13, 2022, 04:54:52 PM

Title: Price for Crosstar
Post by: jamjar on June 13, 2022, 04:54:52 PM
Crosstar list price for twotone surf blue/black today it is 27k. Gone up a lot in just one year!
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: NoelM on June 13, 2022, 05:34:18 PM
Changing mine in September
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 13, 2022, 05:34:34 PM
Even the price on a basic EX with metallic paint is £24,600 now!

Up £2k since last year.

Some car magazines were saying the new Civic would start from £23/£24k! Many people actually expect £30/32k now.

The local dealer where I get my car serviced has a HRV on the forecourt, but it is a top spec one at £34k!
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Jazzik on June 13, 2022, 06:27:01 PM
Even the price on a basic EX with metallic paint is £24,600 now!

I really don't consider my EX with metallic paint (Premium Sunlight White Pearl) very "basic".... Do you?
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Kenneve on June 13, 2022, 07:24:24 PM
27K for a Crosstar is a waste of money, An EX is far better value, has all the bells and whistles that you want and at least one that you don't, (RDMS).
I just don't understand why people pay the extra for a Crosstar, which is really just an EX in drag!
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 13, 2022, 08:46:48 PM
Even the price on a basic EX with metallic paint is £24,600 now!

I really don't consider my EX with metallic paint (Premium Sunlight White Pearl) very "basic".... Do you?

According to Honda it's the bottom of their range car :( Some manufacturers don't even have that. I used to have a Volvo V40, retail was £22k when new but the replacement of a similar spec was an XC40 at £34k so had to leave the brand.

They will likely be promoting HRV and Civic as well as new CRV - there is more profit in those cars.

Sadly many manufacturers seem to be dropping standard hatchbacks and moving towards only SUV style cars.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Jazzik on June 13, 2022, 08:48:52 PM
I just don't understand why people pay the extra for a Crosstar, which is really just an EX in drag!

I would say in Tupperware...  :P

...and you don't get Blind Spot Information and the Cross Traffic Monitor.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 13, 2022, 08:53:17 PM
27K for a Crosstar is a waste of money, An EX is far better value, has all the bells and whistles that you want and at least one that you don't, (RDMS).
I just don't understand why people pay the extra for a Crosstar, which is really just an EX in drag!

I've spent a week driving the crosstar while my EX was broken at the dealers with the infotainment issues.

They do drive a bit differently. If my loan crosstar was typical then perhaps they are tuned to deliver more low down power but at the expense of higher performance.

The crosstar I had was much more responsive than my EX around town, but merging onto the motorway up a slight hill from 50-70mph it just wouldn't accelerate much... whereas my EX would have been a lot better.

My Volvo V40 was an XC version - the same as the crosstar is to the EX, with a 1" suspension lift and some plastic panels. I chose it over the standard V40, but the price difference was hardly anything whereas Honda is really pushing the extra on the crosstar now.

If the cost difference was £1k people might choose it more, but the difference is now £2k to start with.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 13, 2022, 08:54:12 PM
I just don't understand why people pay the extra for a Crosstar, which is really just an EX in drag!

I would say in Tupperware...  :P

...and you don't get Blind Spot Information and the Cross Traffic Monitor.

I really missed the blind spot monitor when I was driving the loan car crosstar - it's one of the best features and the reason I chose an EX over an SR.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Kremmen on June 14, 2022, 05:41:33 AM
I spent some time comparing the Crosstar and EX in the showroom so the electronics differences didn't feature at that stage

For me the Crosstar had extra size I didn't need, would make cleaning the roof needing a stepstool. I wasn't impressed with the interior waterproof material and I didn't like the exterror plastic trim. My Civics have all had wheel arch plastics and they do fade and look unsightly over time.

I know I'm alone in this but the non availability of mudflaps and the posts here about no engine undertray was also a factor.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Bristol_Crosstar on June 14, 2022, 08:21:33 AM
It's a matter of personal preference. I always preferred the look of the Crosstar whereas the saloon looks very plain. I prefer the alloys with no plastic bits, the interior design (with seats that don't split at the edges) and as an added bonus they seem to hold their price better than the other models (I've had mine for over a year and could sell it for a decent profit). I also love the two-tone paint and the enhanced audio system.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: richardfrost on June 14, 2022, 08:57:56 AM
Changing mine in September

May I ask why you are changing so soon?
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: NoelM on June 14, 2022, 02:22:40 PM
I have been offered a deal I canít refuse. Without going into detail it is costing me nothing.
Car is fine only issues I have had with it was a faulty EGR valve and issue with infotainment system that were both fixed without issue
So I pick up another Crosstar sometime in September
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Kremmen on June 14, 2022, 02:54:14 PM
Costing you nothing, interesting how they can perform a straight swap, old for new.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Hugh R on June 14, 2022, 02:59:29 PM
Changing mine in September
I'm amazed a dealer would do this for you for no charge - you should tell us all their name!
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Kremmen on June 14, 2022, 04:29:26 PM
I wonder if the reports that used Jazz 4 are selling for more than new, list, the dealer has a trick up their sleeve.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 14, 2022, 05:12:45 PM
My local dealer has a couple of used EX's (a 21 and a 22) up for 23.5k/24.5k with around 3000 miles on them.

Looks like prices are high secondhand.

FYI Honda has fixed their trade in calculator on the website but the prices are awful - 17k for a 21 EX when cazoo are paying over 20k.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Bristol_Crosstar on June 14, 2022, 05:44:10 PM
I wonder if the reports that used Jazz 4 are selling for more than new, list, the dealer has a trick up their sleeve.
Could be that there's no vat on secondhand so the dealer gets all the money, on a new car 20% goes to the government
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: MicktheMonster on June 14, 2022, 10:20:28 PM
On used cars, the dealer pays VAT on the difference between what they buy a car for and what the sell it for.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Cake on June 23, 2022, 10:34:04 AM
I just don't understand why people pay the extra for a Crosstar, which is really just an EX in drag!

My wife says the extra couple of inches are worth having  8)
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: sportse on June 23, 2022, 10:53:00 AM
It's only 1.18 inches taller  8) but that probably includes the roof bars.

Ground clearance is 0.63 inches higher than normal Jazz.
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Karoq on June 23, 2022, 11:22:16 AM
Had I gone for a Jazz rather than the HR-V I would have gone for the Crosstar purely for the looks. and in spite of what it lacks over the EX Jazz.
Having driven SUVs for years i prefer that look, although I admit the Crosstar is in no way a true SUV!
Title: Re: Price for Crosstar
Post by: Jazzik on June 23, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Had I gone for a Jazz rather than the HR-V I would have gone for the Crosstar purely for the looks.

That's how I chose my first wife... for the looks...
What looks best isn't always best, I traded her in a long time ago!  ;D