Small car / Jazz effect / cars overtaking

[guest4414]

The people just steriotype other drivers, i have 2 cars my lil Jazz and my well looked aftered MR2 mk2 both i drive with respect. But you do get treated differently with some drivers there just shallow people that were dragged up.

[madasafish]

I was behind a massive Audi Q7 4x4 the other day. ...

I think they are a great advert for the driver's lack of good taste and judgement  ...imagine parking in a typical multi storey carpark..

[guest4219]

I find, with my 52 plate CVT, that I often leave other cars behind at traffic lights!

[chrisc]

Its just a testosterone thing.  When some men get behind the wheel of a car, their attitude changes.  My brother in law is an IT support specialist and the most mild-mannered person you could meet.  But he goes and buys a Porsche.  I told him it was his mid-life crises, but he said he likes the build quality and the seats (it is not a comfortable car to ride any distance in).  But the accelleration is tremendous and it reaches 160 km/hr in under 20 seconds.  When he drives his wife's Subaru 4X4 it is quite different

So its the car to blame, not the driver??

[guest4324]

Just had it today driving to work! I was driving down the steep hill near home at the speed limit of 60kmh and had a Toyota Yaris several feet from my rear, so close I was getting quite angry. At the junction a couple of kms later it came level with me to turn the other way and the driver was a late 20's woman. You see this quite a lot now so it's not just testosterone!
The worst drivers here IMO tend to be the business men in the AUDI's or BMW's and the French. Sorry to any French people if this sound's racist but I live close to the border so there are a lot of cross border commuters and I would say about 50% drive extremely dangerously, tailgating, no indicators, overtaking whenever possible (or not possible), no lights even when it's dusk and the law now. I have a lot of French colleagues who I like very much so it's not a personal attack, they just drive badly!!

[culzean]

strange I don't have much of this kind of trouble when driving Civic,  but when I drive wifes Jazz ........

1.   it seems invisible, people just cut out in front at junctions and islands.
2.   they seem to have to overtake, even if you are doing speed limit.

young women now are some of the most impatient, inconsiderate and competitive drivers.   Totally agree about drivers of most German cars, often wondered if they have a DVD in the handbook that shows them how to piss other road users off.

[RichardA]

An idiot is an idiot regardless of what they drive, but it could be suggested that certain brands with their aggressive marketing appeal to certain personalities.

[culzean]

An idiot is an idiot regardless of what they drive, but it could be suggested that certain brands with their aggressive marketing appeal to certain personalities.

And company cars are always faster than privately owned ones

[RichardA]

I can confirm this is not a Jazz thing -  I had someone a few days ago in an Audi Q5 speed up whilst I was overtaking in a VW Polo (don't ask) on a dual carriageway.

All but two miles of my journey to work is on dual carriageways separated by roundabouts. I've lost count of the number times people fly down the right hand lane and change lanes at the last minute before the roundabout. Usually the gap behind the car they've just cut up was three or four times larger than the tiny gap they've slotted into.

[culzean]

I can confirm this is not a Jazz thing -  I had someone a few days ago in an Audi Q5 speed up whilst I was overtaking in a VW Polo (don't ask) on a dual carriageway.

It's bad enough when the car you are overtaking is on a dual carriageway and it speeds up - I have had cars do it to me on single carriageway 'A' and 'B' roads.  I don't normally overtake unless vehicle in front is a car or lorry doing less than 40 on 60 mph road, and even then the road in front has to be clear of traffic for quite a while otherwise I will be overtaking again before too long - I have had cars doing less than 40 speed up so that when I'm now doing 60 to get past them I'm not making the headway I should be - not a problem in the Civic as I can just drop a gear and get loads of extra ooomph right up to 7000rpm red line, but it used to be a problem in the Jazz which wasn't so well endowed with BHP.  It is unforgivable for a driver to speed up when being overtaken,  especially when they have been tootling along well below speed limit.

[guest4629]

Hi
New to the forum and new to Honda.
Purchased (well PCP'd) a 1.2S in February...quite a change from my 10 year old 2Litre 307CC which decided to lose all compression after the camshaft thought it would be fun to ignore what the rest of the engine was doing.
Absolutely delighted with it in terms of running cost (I commute 70 miles each day, straight down the M5 in Devon...including the dreaded Haldon Hill).

I pootle along at 55 - 60mph, getting an average (over the 1400 miles covered so far) of 55mpg as per on-board computer. It seems to be improving by the week (fill up every 7 days), so is this the ECU/engine loosening up??

I try to avoid following the big lorries/transporters because of stonechips on the bonnet (got 3 in the first week of owning it, and having Milano Red, they show up like lighthouses!)
So most drivers pass me by whether they are testosterone fuelled/idiots/d**kheads or whatever. I usually wave at the ones who have been behind following for a minute at my speed, then they realize its a Jazz in front, so SHOOOOOT off overtaking at 80+.

I'm a radio amateur, so have two short VHF aerials on the roof that also initially deters them from overtaking (I'm NOT pretending to be Mr plod, though someone said put a child's fancy dress inspectors hat on the rear shelf..that should provide a laugh)

My 307CC was costing me an absolute fortune in running it (OK, so it could get over Halden hill in 5th at 60mph....Jazz has to go down to 3rd to go at 45mph), but I wish I had the Jazz years ago.

I miss the folding mirrors (narrow country lanes in Devon), reversing sensors, 6CD changer, "convertability", aircon, etc, but I wouldn't swap back again for all the paddy fields in Swindon

[degzi]

Yeah I came from a 2litre Audi, I must admit I myself loved the power when needed.

But.. I do love my jazz. It feels so tight to drive, it's just annoying that other drivers seem agitated by it.
Some Scrote in a Citroen pulled out in front of me today  didn't give a hoot. I had to slam anchors on to avoid rear ending him, the other day I had car overtake to go back to speed limit which I was doing anyway. Few days before that a car trying to go by on dual carriageway which didn't realise how nippy jazz's are and went back behind. Yayyyyy only to then overtake when I was going 65 to go in front of me at 60... Aahhh well, I just think yeah you just did all that for nothing I'm still knocking 50+mpg 

[nowster]

The interesting thing is that the Honda Fit is considered a "boy racer" car in the States.

[culzean]

The interesting thing is that the Honda Fit is considered a "boy racer" car in the States.

every Honda that has ever been built could be considered a performance car in USA - they were used to 4 and 5 litre cars with auto boxes and  5:1 compression ratio to run on low octane fuel,  their 0-60 time was measured using a calendar.  I was over there once on business (in about 1994)  and talked to a young engineer with a Civic hatch with the 1.6 DOHC VTEC and he was amazed at both the economy and performance of it compared to the 'American' sports cars available,  and it actually steered well too - a real bonus.

[RichardA]

/\ The last sentence of your post reminds me of the Pontatic Firebird Trans Am from the 1980s TV series Knight Rider, and how in 1982 it probably developed something ridiculous like 170bhp from 5.0 V8!

(I've just looked it up and it's actually 165bhp from a 5.0 V8!)