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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Is the MK3 better than MK2 revisited?
« Last post by culzean on Today at 08:24:49 PM »
Another intangible area is the outward appearance. I prefer the MK3 - it seems to have a bit more presence.

The engine is a difficult one in that performance is tied up with the change to a CVT but the new car is a much more composed motorway cruiser. At 70 you are doing less than 2,000 rpm on the motorway and that may well be the same in the manual with the sixth gear over the 5 speed box in the MK2.

Suspension seems a bit more able to handle bumps and our crappy potholed roads but I have gone down from 16 inch wheels to 15 inch wheels so higher profile tyres might be helping here.


I must admit to liking the MK2 look more than the MK3,  the MK2 looks smooth where the MK3 looks a bit boxy and similar to lot of other cars.

The sixth gear would not help,  even on the Civic with the 6 speed box and 1.8 engine it is still pulling over 3000 revs at 70,  my first Civic was a 5 speed 1.5 and that pulled less than 2500 at 70 with less power than the Jazz - seems to be a modern Honda thing to be low geared.

My wifes MK2 has just had a set of 15" alloys and new Avon 175/65R15 ZT5 shoes fitted and it has improved the ride no end,  also much quieter than the 185/55R16 boots it had on before.
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New Members / Re: New member with an ex cvt
« Last post by RichardA on Today at 08:19:49 PM »
Hello and welcome. :)
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Honda Jazz Mk3 FAQ / Re: Unfavourable Review of new Jazz
« Last post by mcderd on Today at 08:14:50 PM »
As culzean said "She could test a Tesla and then complain about other things like the quality, fit and finish, tendency for wheels to fall off and the autopilot,  but would be happy with acceleration." Especially in ludicrous mode!
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Frankly if I could disable the thing I would do but I gather you have to have these things by law.

At a similar stage of my Mk3 ownership...a few months and two false warnings.....I felt the same. But now, after 26,000 miles, one genuine warning and no more false warnings, I am glad to have it.

Odd, I had two false alarms in the early days, probably self inflicted, nothing since.
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Frankly if I could disable the thing I would do but I gather you have to have these things by law.

At a similar stage of my Mk3 ownership...a few months and two false warnings.....I felt the same. But now, after 26,000 miles, one genuine warning and no more false warnings, I am glad to have it.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Re: Is the MK3 better than MK2 revisited?
« Last post by Deeps on Today at 05:52:05 PM »
My MK3 SE is my first Jazz, coming from decades of diesel cars, Mrs Deeps calls it "A gutless slug" but she is a low rev diesel trained driver. I don't have this problem as I use the full range of revs when required. Having driven the 1.5 with the torque converter fitted CVT the car is transformed, in my opinion Honda went too far for economy over drivability with the 1.3 Atkinson cycle engine. Is the MK3 any good? With the  1.5 engine yes, my 1.5 Sport CVT arrived at the dealer today and is handed over on Monday.
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Frankly if I could disable the thing I would do but I gather you have to have these things by law.
Yes. Another EU regulation, in force since November 2014.
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Honda Jazz Mk3 2015 - / Is the MK3 better than MK2 revisited?
« Last post by peteo48 on Today at 05:17:01 PM »
I was inspired to give my impressions by dogbiscuit's excellent review of his car. I offer a slightly different perspective however although we both "graduated" from the MK2. In my case the issue has been further complicated by the transition to a CVT from a manual. For this reason I won't touch on the gearbox.

A pleasant surprise with the MK3 has been the infotainment screen. I'm still sceptical about these things but I have found it pretty easy to use. It's certainly better for the mobile phone in that you can see all the numbers on screen and I was able to transfer numbers across much more easily - in fact it was seamless. Likewise the audio system gives you much more information. I find this particularly useful when I use my own music on a memory stick. The controls on the steering wheel are still there so, overall, I concede the new system is an improvement. The only niggle is the stupid warning that comes on after every start.

A huge improvement has been the automatic light system. On my MK2 (there was some heated debate about this!) the system was worse than useless. You could be driving on the motorway in pouring rain and dark conditions and the lights simply refused to come on even with the wipers in operation. This car works as it should and dipped headlights come on when it rains. The annoying tendency of the lights to come on late in the day despite bright sunshine is still an issue however. I think this must be a Honda issue because it doesn't seem to happen with other cars in the same conditions. It doesn't happen on my daughter's Qashqai for example.

Staying on lights I like the "follow you home" feature. We have a darkish driveway and this is a boon covering the time before our security light comes on.

The cabin is a mixed bag. Some useful storage has been lost. I felt, and this is a bit intangible, that my MK2 had a slightly better quality feel. That said the Mk3's cabin is slightly larger.

Another intangible area is the outward appearance. I prefer the MK3 - it seems to have a bit more presence.

The engine is a difficult one in that performance is tied up with the change to a CVT but the new car is a much more composed motorway cruiser. At 70 you are doing less than 2,000 rpm on the motorway and that may well be the same in the manual with the sixth gear over the 5 speed box in the MK2.

Suspension seems a bit more able to handle bumps and our crappy potholed roads but I have gone down from 16 inch wheels to 15 inch wheels so higher profile tyres might be helping here.

So I would recommend this car. I'm glad I've stayed with the Jazz. I only need a small vehicle given the type of driving I do but it is composed on the motorway and is an excellent load and/or passenger carrier when the situation demands it.
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If you are 100% sure you have calibrated correctly and you get an alarm above, e.g. 24psi, then you may have a systemic failure.

Probably best to ask an expert rather than have a positive "false" alarm.

You could just just ignore TPMS and go back to the tried and tested method of checking the tyre pressures regularly  which is what you'll have to do anyway to keep your tyres in good order.

I think it would be pretty obvious if you got a blow out and you would probably spot it well before the TPMS. TPMS,  will tip you off with a slow puncture but you'd probably spot that too. (Another case of newer is not necessarily better).

I guess that's a good way of looking at it. I check my pressures regularly in any event so, if this system isn't working, it's just like having all the cars I've ever had in my life which didn't have the system.

The downside, however, is the very hard to ignore huge picture of a tyre in the information binnacle. You can switch this off by toggling with the buttons on the steering wheel leaving a small picture of a tyre elsewhere. The big tyre comes back, though, whenever you restart the car so it is a PITA.

It's got 2 years new car warranty left so it's going in if it comes on again after my latest reset (always assuming there is no puncture lol).

Frankly if I could disable the thing I would do but I gather you have to have these things by law.
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As a matter of interest- What happens when you get wheel spin? Does that set up a TPMS alarm?

I suspect the answer is something to with time. Wheel spin does not occur for more than a second or so. I would expect the TPMS system to be set up not to react to speed mismatches which lasted for short duration such as wheelspin.

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